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Ewfflyer 09-19-2007 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 233066)
Also be aware that public perception is somewhat important in the airline business. Passengers are inherently stupid, bizarre, and unpredictable...pax who see a pilot who appears to be physically impaired may deplane the aircraft, complain to the company, call the FAA, etc. You may want to think in advance how you could avoid such situations, and be prepared to discuss this with an employer.

Good Luck!

One thing he did mention is he has a custom fitted glove to help that hand grip, so I would also assume it would look fairly "normal" in the sense of a cover-up as avoid any conflict in that area.

PhoenixFlood 09-19-2007 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by Ewfflyer (Post 233089)
One thing he did mention is he has a custom fitted glove to help that hand grip, so I would also assume it would look fairly "normal" in the sense of a cover-up as avoid any conflict in that area.

The custom fit batting glove I wear makes my right hand look like the fist is clenched at first glance.

The first year after my injury I wore it 24/7 just because I was self conscious on how it looked.

Paok 09-19-2007 08:10 PM

GO FOR IT ....you have a GREAT attitude, and I think you have a good shot, as does the pilot thats sitting with me reading this thread......keep us updated!

Paok 09-19-2007 08:11 PM

As for the flying public I know a man who flies for a Legacy regional who appears VERY badly burned all over his face, and he had no problem flying for a very good major.....

PhoenixFlood 09-19-2007 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by Paok (Post 233490)
As for the flying public I know a man who flies for a Legacy regional who appears VERY badly burned all over his face, and he had no problem flying for a very good major.....

Thanks, I need that.

Also, pics from my sit down in the Challenger this morning:

Left hand, left yoke:
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/3424/dsc01537ix7.jpg

Right hand on main throttle:
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/4998/dsc01538jf5.jpg


Right hand, coming underneath to "push" the TR's up:
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/9125/dsc01539hv0.jpg

Hand Swap:
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5209/dsc01543my6.jpg

Right hand, right yoke:
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/8522/dsc01545in2.jpg

Left hand, TR's "normal" way:
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7008/dsc01546ny3.jpg

UPS1856 09-20-2007 03:48 AM

I am typed in the ERJ and the CRJ. I think the CRJ T/R would be much easier to lift up in your situation. The ERJ has a small two finger lift to open the T/R's up.

To the guy who posted about public perception, good grief that was a jacka$$ dumb post. You know what the majority of those people are going to see? They are going to see someone that overcame a "disability" and is now an inspiration to others. Then they are going to pi$$ and moan why you are 4 minutes late getting them to "Padooka Falls".

I had a student in almost your identical position. He flew as good as any students out there. He was picked up by a regional.

Quit goofing off on here looking for opinions on what you can do and not do. You have proved you can do it. Get your apps in there and go get a job flying.

Keep us updated on who is lucky enough to hire you.

Ewfflyer 09-20-2007 04:28 AM


Originally Posted by UPS1856 (Post 233580)
I am typed in the ERJ and the CRJ. I think the CRJ T/R would be much easier to lift up in your situation. The ERJ has a small two finger lift to open the T/R's up.

To the guy who posted about public perception, good grief that was a jacka$$ dumb post. You know what the majority of those people are going to see? They are going to see someone that overcame a "disability" and is now an inspiration to others. Then they are going to pi$$ and moan why you are 4 minutes late getting them to "Padooka Falls".

I had a student in almost your identical position. He flew as good as any students out there. He was picked up by a regional.

Quit goofing off on here looking for opinions on what you can do and not do. You have proved you can do it. Get your apps in there and go get a job flying.

Keep us updated on who is lucky enough to hire you.

Another reason I know this is going to happen for Phoenix, is his attitude. I had a student, who's hands were born as stub's. It was a birth defect for him. This guy was one of the most proficient pilots I've taught. Worked hard, and didn't let anything stop him. He also rides a harley, and is a reserve police officer, so he has to be able to handle a weapon. Very cool guy, and just reminds me that I need to give him a call and get an update on how things are going for him.

EDIT:Phoenix, when you have the ability to PM, I have a link to send to you for this guy.

rickair7777 09-20-2007 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by UPS1856 (Post 233580)
To the guy who posted about public perception, good grief that was a jacka$$ dumb post. You know what the majority of those people are going to see? They are going to see someone that overcame a "disability" and is now an inspiration to others. Then they are going to pi$$ and moan why you are 4 minutes late getting them to "Padooka Falls".

Well then, let's all sing Kumbaya! You have a very optimistic view of human nature, your pax must be the nicest, most understanding pax in the whole industry...oh wait, you fly boxes so you wouldn't even know :rolleyes:

I was trying to help the guy by pointing out possible stumbling blocks, so he could be prepared in advance to deal with them.

cyrcadian 09-20-2007 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 233692)
Well then, let's all sign Kumbaya! You have a very optimistic view of human nature, your pax must be the nicest, most understanding pax in the whole industry...oh wait, you fly boxes so you wouldn't even know :rolleyes:

I was trying to help the guy by pointing out possible stumbling blocks, so he could be prepared in advance to deal with them.

I agree.

I hate to be "that guy", but it seems I am not alone. Public perception is a part of this situation and you have to consider it just as you have considered the every other possibility. I wish you the very best and honestly hope you get hired where ever you want to work, but I don't think it is going to happen. Just my opinion and I hope you prove me wrong.

What gets me is the thrust reverser hand "switch". I picture my two strongest crosswind landings (DAY and LGA) during the winter. If I take my hand off that yoke for one second we are drifting off the side of the runway. And if I don't deploy those reversers, stopping is going to be very interesting.

Bash away people.

BTW, if you do get hired at a regional, I want to be the first to know. Because I am going to buy you a steak dinner and watch you eat it with my foot in my mouth!

JoeyMeatballs 09-20-2007 08:04 AM

Thrust Reversers Hardly Do Anything And They Arent Used In Stopping Distance!
 
Studies have shown that the actual use of Thrust reversers have a very minimal if any effect at all when it comes to stopping an airplane, hence when they compute stopping distance they dont account for thrust reverseres being deployed. We "pop the buckets" to help create drag and bring the nose down but thrust reverser's are probably used by many because of the super cool sound they make:rolleyes: not to mention how much sh*t they can throw into an engine as well as waste gas..............

PS the guy above says his landing would be "very interesting" if he didnt deploy the Thrust Reversers??????????????? Come on bro, If you are relying on that to get the airplane stopped you landed way too long and should have went around in the first place..........

Phoenix don't listen to anyone go out there and get the ******* job, dont let anybody, especially those who think Thrust Reversers saved there ass from going of the end of the runway, tell you any different


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