I guess that's what I was trying to get at. Why leave one "Regional" to go to another, unless you were at a less than desirable airline now.

Yeah just did my fed ride on wed. know i should be captain pay from hear on out. Everyone who can attend the meeting better. We have some serious issues that the company better resolve. I find it humerous that the companies CEO says "we are a different airline and we will do things the right way" and then stick a group of pilots on poverty row.... The only reason people came hear vs. applying to nwa was that nwa was not hiring at the time or taking applications. Stay strong the results will follow.

Hey Vikz09,

I sent you an e-mail the other day. Check it out. I am curious about your thoughts via e-mail!

J

Awright...I'm in my 30 day self study right now so don't know anything about company email. Would you mind emailing/PM'ing me contact info for the MEC? I'm supposed to be in Frankfurt the first part of the week but this sounds like a pretty important meeting & I intend to get involved in any case...

I agree with most of that....add to the bottom that most of the ppl that have been hired didn't have the option at the time of applying to NWA due to all the furloughs...I guess we should have known half of them wouldn't come back. Now everyone has an 11/29 sentence to complete.

I still think according to the contract in the training pay section it is PLAIN AS DAY that we should be getting CA pay for ALL the left seat time. Of course this whole bs about getting fo guarantee while waiting on trips is just that too BS! :(
That's my Friday night rant for now.

Sounds like it's time to stop flying until they start paying.

That might not be out of the question either. I just hope this good bunch of guys is willing to stand the ground before things go to far down the wrong road.

My understanding is that, until completion of the CA line check, everyone is paid as an FO EXCEPT when they are actually flying in the left seat in IOE. Those hours will be adjusted to be paid at CA pay, and for all time flown in September, that correction will be on the Oct 13th check. So, XtremeF150, please check your next paystub, you are going to get CA pay for the time you spent in the left seat, it's just that the remainder of your gaurantee while in training is at FO pay. (And since that is still techniclly your base rate, all 37.5 hours on your last check was FO pay) I'm not defending it or saying it doesn't suck, I'm just saying that nobody is getting FO pay for any time in the left seat, so let's all settle down.

First of all that was not the agreement the union and company came up with, and the company is in complete violation of this! They both repeated many times that capt pay started at the beginning of IOE, PERIOD! Not just when your on IOE, but the guarntee also. This was on our first day in class when we were told we weren't going to get capt pay from the start, nor be check airmen. The union did this to aviod letting the company delay our capt IOE, so the could use us as FOs. I've been on IOE for over a 1 1/2 months so basically they're getting a way with it. Your wrong about getting FO pay from the left seat, I've flown some part 91 trips for them from the left seat. Since I'm not technically finished with my IOE, what pay you think I get, thats right FO PAY!!! I was hired here as capt and check airmen, and was told I was to get captain pay from day one. Everybody in my class was told the same line of crap. Then there is the whole check airmen fabrication. I was lured here from a good airline by all these promises, and now I'm making $1000 dollars a month, this is unacceptable! I'm not going to settle down, I'm mad as hell! I now there is a lot of us who feel the same way, and I know I'm not going to take this laying down.