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careerpilot 09-24-2007 11:10 AM

Compass?
 
Looking for some insider info about Commpass. Do you like it? What concerns you about Compass? Estimate on upgrade time? Flow through terms? I am currently at Eagle and have been for 7 years. Any Exeagle guys at Compass who would reccomend me making the jump?

Thanks for your help.

Sparky 09-24-2007 05:23 PM

I'm there now, and what I know now I wouldn't do it. They've made a lot of promises, and none of has happened. I guess they've been talking about changing the flow-thru, to what I'm not sure. They sell you the kool aid in the interview, and not one thing they told me has come true. Look at the other threads on Compass and you'll see what I'm talking about.

XtremeF150 09-24-2007 06:28 PM

Hey,
I was T-prop CA before so the CA pay here will be an increase for me. Unfortunatley I have been here since June and haven't seen anything but FO checks...Kinda of odd since I have been flying from the left seat with them for about 5 or 6 weeks. The people ALL have had great attitudes which is an extreme improvement from my last job. I have even been known to do my share of b1tching from time to time. So far the only thing I can really complain about is the $$$$. Being VERY overstaffed right now is nice...I am off about 24 days this month I believe.

All that said....if I was at year 7 pay at AE...I think I would stay there. Having to go through training again sucks. You SHOULD be able to hold CA there very shortly right? If I could go left seat at 7 year pay where I knew the routine...I would stay. Nobody over at CMP is flying much except those guys doing IOE. So you won't be breaking the bank with that $61 an hour....If you even get it.

LifeNtheFstLne 09-24-2007 07:23 PM

Add my name to the list of people expressing frustration over empty promises and pay issues. Stay where you are. However, awesome group of guys here to be working with at CPS. Too bad that doesn't pay the bills. Someone needs to refill my glass of Kool-aid! Oh yeeeeeeah.

careerpilot 09-25-2007 04:33 AM

Thanks for tthe input.

JungleBus 09-25-2007 10:46 PM


Originally Posted by XtremeF150 (Post 236412)
Hey,
I was T-prop CA before so the CA pay here will be an increase for me. Unfortunatley I have been here since June and haven't seen anything but FO checks...Kinda of odd since I have been flying from the left seat with them for about 5 or 6 weeks.

WTF? Flying for FO pay when you were promised CA pay from day one is bad enough, but FO pay while you're actually in the left seat? How in the world is management justifying that? Are they saying it's just a paperwork SNAFU or something?

I'm getting the feeling that the grievance committee is going to be very busy from day one. Speaking of which, anybody know when the ALPA committees are going to be set up or who's working on it?

LifeNtheFstLne 09-28-2007 05:16 AM


Originally Posted by JungleBus (Post 237256)
WTF? Flying for FO pay when you were promised CA pay from day one is bad enough, but FO pay while you're actually in the left seat? How in the world is management justifying that? Are they saying it's just a paperwork SNAFU or something?

I'm getting the feeling that the grievance committee is going to be very busy from day one. Speaking of which, anybody know when the ALPA committees are going to be set up or who's working on it?

I believe the first meeting is next week in MSP. Check your company e-mail or give the NWA MEC a call. Since we no longer can afford to eat, I'll be probably flying in just for the free pizza :p

crewdawg52 09-28-2007 05:41 AM

Just curious, if someone has the minimums for Compass (1500/1000), why did they apply there and not NWA?

FlyerJosh 09-28-2007 05:47 AM

I can think of several reasons- although I would submit that many have applied to NWA.

1) Compass is actively hiring and filling class dates.
2) You chances of getting called at Compass are better.
3) Relative seniority at CPS is going to increase a lot quicker than at NWA.
4) A job at CPS right now essentially equates to a job at NWA (via flow).
5) Growth opportunities.
6) Plank ownership.
7) New pilot group that doesn't have the disgruntled feel of NWA's group. (At least not yet).

saab2000 09-28-2007 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by crewdawg52 (Post 238644)
Just curious, if someone has the minimums for Compass (1500/1000), why did they apply there and not NWA?

Because a few months ago Compass looked like a good place and a possible flow-through to NWA.

Now that NWA is hiring, look to Compass to no longer be the ultra-desirable place to be that it was 6 months ago.

I have my stuff in with Compass. I did at the start. But now I am really focusing on NWA.

A few months ago it looked like Compass would be somewhere between a traditional regional and NWA. Now it looks like just any other regional. It would be a lateral move for me.


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