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Tinpusher007 09-27-2007 06:29 PM

"Delta, the carrier with the most flights at JFK"

Since when? B6 still holds that title.

"Last week, Continental Airlines, which dominates Newark, announced it will move small regional jets from Newark to Cleveland and replace them with larger regional jets and full-size jets. Using larger jets will allow it to carry more passengers without adding flights."

Pretty sure they're talkin about the Colgan Q400's!

freezingflyboy 09-27-2007 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 238439)
There might be a decent amount of XJT guys but that doesn't make them any different than anyone else there and doesn't make them the majority either. Regardless of what they/we want doesn't mean it can't or won't happen. We'll see how good the union really is. Remember CHQ once flew 170's in violation of scope clauses and paid a fine for it. Even with the fine they still made money hand over fist.

And it sounds like you're pleased as punch to be part of something like that. Maybe you should quit the airlines and open up a hardware store:rolleyes:

ToiletDuck 09-27-2007 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 238454)
And it sounds like you're pleased as punch to be part of something like that. Maybe you should quit the airlines and open up a hardware store:rolleyes:

Oh really did you bother to read anything I wrote? First post

I want to work there one day and don't want anything over 50 seats flying but regardless of how much some of us might wish doesn't mean it won't happen. Where there's a lawyer there's a way.
Here's another

Regardless of what they/we want doesn't mean it can't or won't happen
You can also search any other posts of mine about regionals and their flying and I've always stuck to my guns. I don't think anything over 50 seats should be used for regional flying. How much simpler do I have to make it? What it sounds like is that you don't pay attention very well:rolleyes: Stating the facts is stating the facts. Doesn't mean I support what's going on. Saying my company is the top contender doesn't mean I'm patting them on the back for it. It means they are the top contender. You make it sound like XJT guys are the pilot group over there. Don't know if you heard the news but CAL sold XJT and their pilot group is as diverse as anyone elses. CAL management and RAH management want this. With enough lawyer power it's possible. Like I said THIS is when we'll see if the union is worth their salt or not. The CAL is making great profits and if the union can't make that work for them then all is lost.

freezingflyboy 09-27-2007 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 238463)
Oh really did you bother to read anything I wrote? First post

Here's another

You can also search any other posts of mine about regionals and their flying and I've always stuck to my guns. I don't think anything over 50 seats should be used for regional flying. How much simpler do I have to make it? What it sounds like is that you don't pay attention very well:rolleyes: Stating the facts is stating the facts. Doesn't mean I support what's going on. Saying my company is the top contender doesn't mean I'm patting them on the back for it. It means they are the top contender. You make it sound like XJT guys are the pilot group over there. Don't know if you heard the news but CAL sold XJT and their pilot group is as diverse as anyone elses. CAL management and RAH management want this. With enough lawyer power it's possible. Like I said THIS is when we'll see if the union is worth their salt or not. The CAL is making great profits and if the union can't make that work for them then all is lost.

So I trust when that E170 CA slot comes open in IAH or EWR, you won't be bidding for it?

CL65driver 09-27-2007 09:42 PM

I'll eat crow the day we see a 170 in CO colors... :D

..... then I'll laugh my a$$ off since we'll have more planes available for Branded, Delta and Charter.

ToiletDuck 09-27-2007 10:50 PM


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 238468)
So I trust when that E170 CA slot comes open in IAH or EWR, you won't be bidding for it?

I'll bid for whatever offers me the highest QOL and pay. QOL before pay. I'll go CRJ if it gets me home. It's up to Continental pilots not to offer it. Once it's on the table it's on the table and it will stay there. I'm in no position to speak against my company for flying them. They flew Saabs and Metroliners back in the day. It wasn't until someone decided to outsource more that they jumped at the opportunity to expand. I can't blame a company for wanting to make more money just as I can't blame pilots for wanting to make more. So to answer your question if there's a 170CA slot in IAH and I can get it you bet your ass. It's not because of small pay increase or because it's a bigger plane. It's because of QOL. I could care less if I flew a 135 so long as I was paid well. It's up to the union not to let that slot in IAH show up. People simply aren't going to quit working in some sort of silent protest.

HercDriver130 09-28-2007 12:30 AM

I really think the hand writing is on the wall. It has been going on for nearly 20 years. Mainline carriers want the ultra long routes and high capacity routes. Shorter haul and less profitable routes even in the 70 to 80 seat range they have and will give up to the JET airlines like RAH and EXJet et cet. The public wants frequency all day long..and the only way the companies can provide that is filling in with flying in that range. The bar has been continuously raised for years what the smaller carriers can code share and fly and I think it will continue that way. the Legacys want MORE intl and long haul ....... it is what it is..... the business model is out there and its probably not changing anytime soon....

Killer51883 09-28-2007 02:46 AM

hmm a new cleveland base that sounds exciting!!!

jdt30 09-28-2007 03:24 AM


Originally Posted by HercDriver130 (Post 238581)
I really think the hand writing is on the wall. It has been going on for nearly 20 years. Mainline carriers want the ultra long routes and high capacity routes. Shorter haul and less profitable routes even in the 70 to 80 seat range they have and will give up to the JET airlines like RAH and EXJet et cet. The public wants frequency all day long..and the only way the companies can provide that is filling in with flying in that range. The bar has been continuously raised for years what the smaller carriers can code share and fly and I think it will continue that way. the Legacys want MORE intl and long haul ....... it is what it is..... the business model is out there and its probably not changing anytime soon....

I completely agree with you on what Cal wants, but they have to get rid of scope. Right now I just don't see us giving it up. Besides negotiations, the only way I know of getting rid of it is by merging with another carrier.

POPA 09-28-2007 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by Killer51883 (Post 238591)
hmm a new cleveland base that sounds exciting!!!

Apparently you haven't seen the "crew room."


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