Continental hints
09-27-2007 | 04:21 PM
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Continental hints
I was riding on a jumpseat in a CRJ today reading the FO's paper when I saw this article. I'll bold the interesting part.
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/fligh...y_N.htm?csp=34
The question I'm sure we're all scratching our heads over is which regional carrier has it's foot in the door and has always had its eye set on flying its "larger regional jets" for Continental and is now in the perfect position to do so with it's new MX facility in CLE with a good posibility of making it a company base within the next two months????
This is where someone shouts "But that's IMPOSSIBLE because of their SCOPE!". I've only heard that hundred times over so someone keep drinking the punch and say it one more time.... I want to work there one day and don't want anything over 50 seats flying but regardless of how much some of us might wish doesn't mean it won't happen. Where there's a lawyer there's a way.
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/fligh...y_N.htm?csp=34
Aviation officials, airlines blasted over delays
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By Alan Levin and Marilyn Adams, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — Lawmakers heaped intense criticism on federal aviation regulators and airlines Wednesday for this year's surge in flight delays as momentum grew for government action to restrict flights into the nation's most congested airports.
The contentious hearing before the House Aviation Subcommittee came a day before today's scheduled meeting between President Bush and his top transportation officials to discuss what has been the worst year ever for delays. Hoping to avert restrictions, Delta Airlines on Wednesday announced it was voluntarily reducing some flights at New York's John F. Kennedy airport.
Several congressmen, including subcommittee Chairman Jerry Costello, D-Ill., demanded that the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) pressure airlines to trim flights at the most overburdened airports.
"Tell me why you just won't do it," demanded Rep. Michael Capuano, D-Mass. "You are embarrassing all of us here. Your agency's failure to act is embarrassing."
FAA acting Administrator Bobby Sturgell would not say if he would force airlines to cut schedules, but the agency has already taken steps to pressure carriers. Last week, the FAA notified airlines it would work with them to review their operations at Kennedy and Newark (N.J.) Liberty International Airport. The airports are two of the three most delayed in the nation.
FIND MORE STORIES IN: House | Federal Aviation Administration | Delta Airlines | Newark | Transportation | John F Kennedy airport | Delays | Administrator Bobby Sturgell
Delays so far this year are the worst ever recorded, according to the federal Bureau of Transportation Statistics. At Kennedy, Newark and New York's LaGuardia Airport, more than four out of every 10 arrivals have been at least 15 minutes late this year.
Lengthy delays are also at record levels. Last summer, 6.4% of flights arrived at least an hour late.
Sturgell and Department of Transportation General Counsel D.J. Gribbin said that they would prefer not to impose caps on flights because it's inefficient.
The administration would rather charge airlines higher fees for using congested airports, but Congress has rejected that.
"If you are not willing to take action, we'll have to step in and mandate it," Costello said. After the hearing, Costello and other powerful House lawmakers scheduled an announcement this morning on delays.
Delta, the carrier with the most flights at JFK, said it would reduce the number of departures during peak afternoon and evening periods next summer even as it expands its international service. The flights will be more spread out during the day.
"We're doing this responsibly," CEO Richard Anderson said.
Last week, Continental Airlines, which dominates Newark, announced it will move small regional jets from Newark to Cleveland and replace them with larger regional jets and full-size jets. Using larger jets will allow it to carry more passengers without adding flights.
Updated 18h 49m ago | Comments 8 | Recommend 3 E-mail | Save | Print | Reprints & Permissions | Subscribe to stories like this
By Alan Levin and Marilyn Adams, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — Lawmakers heaped intense criticism on federal aviation regulators and airlines Wednesday for this year's surge in flight delays as momentum grew for government action to restrict flights into the nation's most congested airports.
The contentious hearing before the House Aviation Subcommittee came a day before today's scheduled meeting between President Bush and his top transportation officials to discuss what has been the worst year ever for delays. Hoping to avert restrictions, Delta Airlines on Wednesday announced it was voluntarily reducing some flights at New York's John F. Kennedy airport.
Several congressmen, including subcommittee Chairman Jerry Costello, D-Ill., demanded that the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) pressure airlines to trim flights at the most overburdened airports.
"Tell me why you just won't do it," demanded Rep. Michael Capuano, D-Mass. "You are embarrassing all of us here. Your agency's failure to act is embarrassing."
FAA acting Administrator Bobby Sturgell would not say if he would force airlines to cut schedules, but the agency has already taken steps to pressure carriers. Last week, the FAA notified airlines it would work with them to review their operations at Kennedy and Newark (N.J.) Liberty International Airport. The airports are two of the three most delayed in the nation.
FIND MORE STORIES IN: House | Federal Aviation Administration | Delta Airlines | Newark | Transportation | John F Kennedy airport | Delays | Administrator Bobby Sturgell
Delays so far this year are the worst ever recorded, according to the federal Bureau of Transportation Statistics. At Kennedy, Newark and New York's LaGuardia Airport, more than four out of every 10 arrivals have been at least 15 minutes late this year.
Lengthy delays are also at record levels. Last summer, 6.4% of flights arrived at least an hour late.
Sturgell and Department of Transportation General Counsel D.J. Gribbin said that they would prefer not to impose caps on flights because it's inefficient.
The administration would rather charge airlines higher fees for using congested airports, but Congress has rejected that.
"If you are not willing to take action, we'll have to step in and mandate it," Costello said. After the hearing, Costello and other powerful House lawmakers scheduled an announcement this morning on delays.
Delta, the carrier with the most flights at JFK, said it would reduce the number of departures during peak afternoon and evening periods next summer even as it expands its international service. The flights will be more spread out during the day.
"We're doing this responsibly," CEO Richard Anderson said.
Last week, Continental Airlines, which dominates Newark, announced it will move small regional jets from Newark to Cleveland and replace them with larger regional jets and full-size jets. Using larger jets will allow it to carry more passengers without adding flights.
This is where someone shouts "But that's IMPOSSIBLE because of their SCOPE!". I've only heard that hundred times over so someone keep drinking the punch and say it one more time.... I want to work there one day and don't want anything over 50 seats flying but regardless of how much some of us might wish doesn't mean it won't happen. Where there's a lawyer there's a way.
09-27-2007 | 04:27 PM
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Also a pilot was at the main HQ in IND and wanted to get a wooden 175 model to put on his desk at the house. They didn't have one in the display case so they said there are some boxes of them in the back. He went into the storage room and ripped a box open to pull out a 175 Republic model in Continental livery. The person that told him to go grab one realized the error and walked in and said "you were't supposed to see that".
09-27-2007 | 04:50 PM
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From: XJT CA
To the best of my knowledge, which is a little skewed due to some post-surgery meds, CAL has a scope clause that prohibits anyone other than CAL flying anything larger than 50 seats. Now with that said, everyone knows that one or two sinful dangling carrots could change that. The article may also be inaccurate when is mentioned "larger regional jets." They may be talking about the Q400's.
09-27-2007 | 05:22 PM
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I'd be willing to bet money they cave on scope when faced with either a carrot or threat. Continental pilots don't really strike me as a "proud" group.. (note I said ME.. nonetheless, flame away)
09-27-2007 | 05:26 PM
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From: 7ER B...whatever that means.
I think there are enough former XJT guys at CAL that would rather see the place burn to the ground than see S!tty Kitty flying 170/175s with globes on the tail. Most of the ex-XJT guys over there are p!ssed off enough with CAL's contract (or non-contract as it were). There isn't really much else for CAL pilots to give up besides their scope.
And Toilet, I may not know much about how airline management works but I am fairly certain they don't entrust bombshells like that to the stock room clerk at the company store. IF said model DOES exist (and thats a BIG F*ing IF) its probably just some yutz over at CHQ HQ having a wet dream.
And Toilet, I may not know much about how airline management works but I am fairly certain they don't entrust bombshells like that to the stock room clerk at the company store. IF said model DOES exist (and thats a BIG F*ing IF) its probably just some yutz over at CHQ HQ having a wet dream.
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09-27-2007 | 05:33 PM
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"Proud" Cal 06 hire
09-27-2007 | 06:00 PM
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To the best of my knowledge, which is a little skewed due to some post-surgery meds, CAL has a scope clause that prohibits anyone other than CAL flying anything larger than 50 seats. Now with that said, everyone knows that one or two sinful dangling carrots could change that. The article may also be inaccurate when is mentioned "larger regional jets." They may be talking about the Q400's.
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Also RAH just built a MX hanger there and accourding to a few base managers it will be our new base. We are moving all CAL flying there. I don't see anyone with Q400's in that neighborhood. If there is anything larger about to start flying it I think RAH is the most accurate guess. Somehow I could see them using the FAA or Pres. Bush pressure to their advantage.
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09-27-2007 | 06:12 PM
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I think there are enough former XJT guys at CAL that would rather see the place burn to the ground than see S!tty Kitty flying 170/175s with globes on the tail. Most of the ex-XJT guys over there are p!ssed off enough with CAL's contract (or non-contract as it were). There isn't really much else for CAL pilots to give up besides their scope.
09-27-2007 | 06:19 PM
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There might be a decent amount of XJT guys but that doesn't make them any different than anyone else there and doesn't make them the majority either. Regardless of what they/we want doesn't mean it can't or won't happen. We'll see how good the union really is. Remember CHQ once flew 170's in violation of scope clauses and paid a fine for it. Even with the fine they still made money hand over fist.
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