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whiskerbizkit 10-14-2007 06:41 PM

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It seems to me that alot of guys on here really like to complain about which airline does this and which airline does that and whether to commute or not yada yada yada. I cant fathom the fact of why they complain so much. You are getting paid to fly. Yes it may not be the best pay in the world, but its still a job, and not a 9 to 5 office job either. There are worse ways to make a living and trust me where I am from, first year FO pay would be more than enough for some people. (I know I will get ragged for this statement.)

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Ok, I'll rag on you. The reason people complain about pay, QOL at regionals is because people like you would do anything to get that rightseat job, and the regionals know that.

flynavyj 10-14-2007 07:38 PM

i agree with whisker.

reevesofskyking 10-14-2007 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by ehaeckercfi (Post 241620)
You have obviously never been a CFI. There is much more to be gained than just being good at teaching. Have you ever heard somebody say that they learned the most from teaching? Guess what! Its true!

As far as your question, I would feel better with the 1500 and 1200 in type. Why? because he has 1500. Rewind 2 years. 400 hours and 100 in type. I'll take the second guy in that case.

Well I would agree that I learned the most from being a cfi, I only gave 300 hours of dual, and I was pretty much done, I did not like it anymore.

Got a job, and have more than double my expreince, and could not put a number value on what I have learned that being a cfi could have never taught me.

I never got the high altitude aerodynamics, high alt weather, weather radar, or a hell of a lot of busy ATC.
I am sure there is more I have learned, but that is some of what sticks out that I was missing being a CFI.

I really do not see the problem with 250 hour guys getting right seat jobs. If the pass they check ride, then in my opinion they have earned the right to make it or wash out on the line.

I know it is possible for a 250 hour guy to go online and have an engine fire, or something else bad, or god forbid crash and hurt someone. At the same time it is not likely that it will happen, and x number of months down the road they will be alright pilots for the airplane they are flying.

It is not the 250 hr guys fault for getting hired by the company they work for.

I think if there is going to be a big problem with this, then a few years down the road you will see an industry correction to the problem if it is there.

I am not going to knock someone for they type of flying that they are doing or want to do and when.

Reeves

flybywire44 10-14-2007 08:47 PM

Get the 121 Job for the turbine time and build your seniority... Then instruct about 10-20 hours a month on the side. Just be sure you do it legally.

ebl14 10-14-2007 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by ehaeckercfi (Post 241129)
Save money as a CFI to prepare for the paycut you will take 1st year at any regional.

Save what money? The $10-15 an hour at 60-70 hours a month, maybe if you are still living with your parents. I do agree that you can gain good expierence flight instructing, but telling someone to instruct till they have 1000tt because they will be a better FO just simply not true. IF that person was going to end up being a good FO, they would be just fine at 500tt, or god forbid even 300tt. 6 months of 1.5 hour flights in a practice area and watching someone do an instrument approach while you stare out the window at the runway in a class D airport is not going to prepare you for the airline world. If you feel comfortable with your flying abilities you would be stupid not to take advantage of a job offer. Do you feel like you can shoot an approach at twice the speed you normally do in your part 91 plane with an engine out, followed by a single engine go around? If you think you can, there is no reason not to take that job offer. However, if you don't and you fail out of groundschool, you will wish you were more prepared since your only choice will be Mesa after that.

In the end, its a personal decision, don't listen to all of these people who think you should flight instruct just beacause they had to "pay thier dues", and in order to feel like they didn't waste a couple years of thier lives they have to tell every young person interested in aviation not to risk the lives of 50-75 ppl because you didn't practice it a million times in a 172. If you are confident enough to think you will make it through training with no problems, don't waste any time. Seniority isn't everything... its the only thing.

Timmay 10-15-2007 12:10 AM


Originally Posted by boilerpilot (Post 241112)
Why even bother with all the stuff that can so easily just be put on flashcards and memorized and forgotten after the interview (what level of learning is that, CFIs!)?

ROTE!!! Cha-Ching!

BAMAPILOT86 10-15-2007 03:03 AM


Originally Posted by trunk junk (Post 241104)
Some guys are much better and competent pilots at 300hrs then some guys at 3000. Its not the amount of hrs its the quality and the quality of the person. If you think you can make it at the regionals at 400hrs or whatever then go for it. I agree that instructing is good experiance but lots of people never went that route and many flight instructors get lazy even if they have tons of hrs. I think with what those regionals pay 300hrs all they should require.

Anyway, just be sure you can make it through training or else your screwed.



I agree! Its not about flight time..

Airsupport 10-15-2007 04:27 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 241023)
I dont know about you but when the shiat hits the fan, I rather have a competent FO with experience on hand than a 800hr vfr skydiving pilot sitting next to me.
I remember when the regionals were asking for 1500tt min...


hahahaha,, as opposed to the 1500tt vfr skydiving pilot...

ehaeckercfi 10-15-2007 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by ebl14 (Post 247259)
Save what money? The $10-15 an hour at 60-70 hours a month, maybe if you are still living with your parents. I do agree that you can gain good expierence flight instructing, but telling someone to instruct till they have 1000tt because they will be a better FO just simply not true. IF that person was going to end up being a good FO, they would be just fine at 500tt, or god forbid even 300tt. 6 months of 1.5 hour flights in a practice area and watching someone do an instrument approach while you stare out the window at the runway in a class D airport is not going to prepare you for the airline world. If you feel comfortable with your flying abilities you would be stupid not to take advantage of a job offer. Do you feel like you can shoot an approach at twice the speed you normally do in your part 91 plane with an engine out, followed by a single engine go around? If you think you can, there is no reason not to take that job offer. However, if you don't and you fail out of groundschool, you will wish you were more prepared since your only choice will be Mesa after that.

In the end, its a personal decision, don't listen to all of these people who think you should flight instruct just beacause they had to "pay thier dues", and in order to feel like they didn't waste a couple years of thier lives they have to tell every young person interested in aviation not to risk the lives of 50-75 ppl because you didn't practice it a million times in a 172. If you are confident enough to think you will make it through training with no problems, don't waste any time. Seniority isn't everything... its the only thing.

I made 35 an hour as a CFI, usually about 500 - 700 per week. Yes it is a pay cut.

Outlaw2097 10-15-2007 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by flybywire44 (Post 247238)
Get the 121 Job for the turbine time and build your seniority... Then instruct about 10-20 hours a month on the side. Just be sure you do it legally.

So how often do you 61 it in a week?


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