Just finished my first trip on OE, and I am my OE captain's first student. After a four day trip in the Northeast with some strong winds, xwinds, and bad weather, the only thing I am a little uncomfortable with still is landing the crj-200. My OE cpt. does not have a teaching background, and during the first 3 days there was no prompting on my landings, until the 4th day when I noted that he could probably help me out by calling things out to me that I might not be aware of. The last day of OE, I had some better approach to landings, but I still feel uncomfortable somewhat. Is there anything I should expect from an OE cpt? overall I had a pretty good time, but I feel like I was shorted when it comes to landing the jet, someone with a lot more experience should have been able to make me feel better than I did. thanks for any thoughts.

 

What airline are you landing that jet for?

 

Don't get too worried.... Even when you are done and signed off, there will be things that you are not completely comfortable with. Just learn as much as you can from each check airman, and learn as much as you can from each captain that you fly with.

Most people feel pretty comfortable after 300 hours or so in the plane. It takes time, but after a while everything will click.

 

Congrats and welcome to the world of the CRJ.. dont feel too bad you are not going to get really comfortable until you get a few hundred hours in the aircraft, I can tell you from experience that I land the Jet better with a cross wind some how I dont float as much...

 

I'll see if I can dust off the cobwebs: about a 2- 2.5 degrees nose down (I think around 55 % N1) maintains a 3 degree glideslope, when you flare it is about a 2 degree nose up. remember approximately 8 degrees of bank and you WILL strike a wingtip. It really is no different than a 172 except don't ever try to slip it. Also if you still need more help simply request more IOE. You will have it down in no time. The hardest thing I noticed from my students, is they relied too much on the automation, and could not fly a visual pattern. It is a great airplane, that you can do anything with as long as you know it's limits and respect them. ALWAYS leave yourself an out.

 

The basics still, as always, apply. Fight for your speed. Fight for the centerline and fight for the touchdown zone.

A good approach will lead to a good landing. A poor approach rarely does.

If you are 5 knots too fast or slow, fight for that proper bugged speed. Same for the glideslope.

It'll come.

 

I agree, I hand fly as much as I can, the automation is great but remember it can be MELed

 

Welcome to the world of Regional Flight School. No offense but my famiy will not fly my regional allegeded "airline". Before I get the flame throwers, its just my opinion that an airline OE captain should be "showing the real world of flying an assuring of Ops specs and flight standards knowledge. Not flight instructing and worse being criticized. Numbers and pitch should have been taught in sim, and experience takes the rest.
You will get it as one posts says, but to question the OE Capt. because you feel you got shorted?

 

You can't teach landings in the sim.

 

I totally disagree with what you say, and I am a LCA at my airline. Yes, numbers and pitch should be taught in the sim, but that's not everything. There is a lot to be taught about how to land a new airplane, I don't care how much experiance you have. Any pilot who feels an OE captain is not a flight instructor is kidding himself. Further, any OE captain/LCA who does not say anything about how to land the airplane during a four day rotation should not be doing OEs.