FlyJSH

Okay, here are some questions I, and some other uninitiated, have had:

What is:

an MEC (similar to a shop steward?)
Junior Manning
An Override

How can one get credited with more hours than actually flown?


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I finally learned how little I know

Airsupport

MEC= master executive council, your local airline leaders.

junior manning= supposedly the company starts at the bottom of the seniority lists and works its way up to find people to cover a flight that couldn't be covered. here at pinnacle you cannot refuse a juniorman assignment and you are paid 150 percent for doing it plus you get a comp day that they have to give you the next month. at skywest you can refuse a juniorman assignment.

override= not sure.

more credit than actual hours flown= at pinnacle we have high speeds, the call them stand-ups at skywest. these are the best way to describe it although there are several other ways of getting more credit than flown. ok now back to the example, at pinnacle if you do the tlh high speed, which is leave mem around 8 at night, and come back at 630 in the morning you are not able to get enough rest to do it legally. so they leave you on duty. depending on the high speed you may only fly 2-3 hours, but you will get a gauranteed amount no matter how much you fly. lets say the tlh is worth 2 hours of credit, but the guarantee is 3.75. that is what you get paid. this is just one example of how you can earn more than you fly.

dojetdriver

Override usually refers to a pay bump of some kind. A check airman/LCA may receive for example a $15/hr override for doing OE/Line checks.

SOME pilots flying international may get an override on top of their hourly rate for doing so.

At some companies, being junior manned results in a 50% override. To tie this in, if you were junior manned for 4 hours of flying with 50% override, you just 6 hrs of pay for 4. More credit than actually flown.

At my previous employer, a high speed/standup/nap/CDO was worth half the duty time. If you showed at 20:00 and released at 08:00, you got 6 hours pay credit (12 hrs of duty time) for what usually never exceeded 3-3 1/2 hours of actual flying.

ghilis101

some airlines dont allow junior manning in their contracts (huge plus!)

and dont forget skywest gets a hefty "override" to fly the CRJ 700/900. sarcasm intended

ExperimentalAB

And don't forget, other carriers like Mesa fly them for lower base-pay and NO "override."

sarcasm...intended.

newarkblows

junior man can ALWAYS be refused... if its your day off "i had a couple of beers with lunch/dinner. sorry"

RatherBGolfin

Better yet, don't answer your phone on your day off

SharkyBN584

Neither of those options works if they nail you on the last day of your trip for some extra flying on your day off...

Ski Patrol

Speaking of eliminating ignorance.....Do you speak of Capt pay or FO pay? Check the #'s. Now if you want to talk rigs well that's another deal, not "base-pay."

HSLD

http://airlinepilotcentral.com/resou...070311214.html

Read the article, then check out the calculator at the bottom.