ASA New hires
 

What determines whether a new hire will go to the -200 or -700? Is it time, experience, or just seniority within the class?

Most everyone is going to the 200, there are 4 each month going to the ATR, no 700 spots have been avaliable to new hires in the past few months, the 200 has about a month rserve time righ now the ATR about 3-4 months....

Are trips to Mexico and the Caribbean senior? Not that it matters, just another crazy question that popped into my head. I am trying to decide between RAH and ASA.

the trips in the 200 international as of now are Freeport Bahamas, sometimes Nassau, Monterrey Mexico, Toronto, Montreal ......that changes time to time, the 700 does Nassau, Turks , Puerto Rico, Belize , and Cancun....there may be more but not sure 100% and no they arent all always senior...

The 70 is a such a novelty airplane. Long reserve and people will transition ahead of u off the 50. The pay is maybe barely more if not the same. The ticket is on the 50. Company tells us the ATR's will be gone by september next year but you know how that goes. Don't request the 70 just because it's bleeds automatically transfer, it has leading edge devices, and more power. The 50 is where it's at all around.

You won't get the 700. My class of 12 has 4 in the ATR. You can bid which aircraft you want, and they get assigned by seniority (age within your class). One of the older folks in my class wanted the ATR so he bid that, so the 3 youngest were assigned it, instead of the 4 youngest.

I'm going down for the class on the 19th of this month, I hear that this class will be the one for November that 4 guys will be taken for the ATR, kinda hoping I'm not one of the 4 youngest guys in the class.

A question I have, how long is it before the class date that you get the paperwork, and stuff that lets you know where they are putting you up and the times, etc.?

Bombardier intended it to have a common type rating, who knows why ASA can't do the same????

Hey bite your tongue! That would be the very reason the company would seek to pay pilots the same to fly both!

I'll be in that class too - I'm 25. I'd prefer the 200, but I wouldn't mind too much if I got the ATR.

Well they start at the top of seniority in the class and ask him first if he wants to go to the ATR, and if he says no they just work their way down the seniority list of the class, so almost always it goes to the 4 youngest.

Why?......

UPS pays the same regardless of type of aircraft. I don't hear anyone *****ing about them. So why would someone ***** about a regional doing the same thing?

He's too cool to fly a prop! I keed

Get real Look at how much they make, compared to how much Skywest, ASA, Comair pay. The FO's at UPS will make more than the top captain at these companies

Because UPS doesn't pay monopoly money like a regional. At a regional, people want and need all they can get. If flying the 700 vs the 200 will pay slightly more, that's great.

Probably because they don't want to fly an old ratted out turboprop. Kids now days want to fly JETS. Jets are cool.

Well I feel that I spent the money to do the CRJ Jet training course in preparation of flying a CRJ. I feel I would be a better fit in the CRJ already having CRJ experience and a basic knowledge of the systems.
But that being said, if I do get put in the ATR I am not going to complain about it, its turbine time regardless, and I have a regional airline job. So what is there really to complain about? Plus I hear all the ATR guys are the funnest to be around at ASA.

Yea I forgot, sorry. What am I doing? I must be genetically inferior to those barbie jet pilots :(

Thats true for sure. One thing you will learn here (whatever you get assigned) is that previous transition courses and all that BS really doesn't matter. The training department is amazing at ASA.

No I think you are referring to the Q400

So, are you saying that I don't want and need all the money that I can get just because I do not work for a regional?

I'm just saying you get paid a fair wage, we...not so much.

ehaeckercfi, i got a question for you.

I was offered my class date at the end of October, and my class date is coming up in a couple of weeks, when should i expect the paperwork for training?

Who says it's fair? I think I'm underpaid.

Did you get a new hire packet? It should have things in it like a direct deposit form and all that good stuff. That is all you get until you start training. They don't expect you to know limitations and memory items before you come for training.

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I love this thread... haha. :D

I've been getting 700 bypass pay ever since I ended probation on the ATR. To think I fly the ATR and I get paid notably more than 200 FO's.

Not to mention I took a CRJ training course! Which if you think about it is not a waste of money even if you get the ATR because you won't be intimidated about going from ATR FO to CRJ Captain. Initial upgrade types are the hardest you'll ever take, I believe the FAA is required to observe your ride and you cannot make any mistakes.

Whatever you do don't take an anti prop mentality to ASA, it won't do much for you and most CRJ captains flew the EMB120/ATR. Also the ATR upgrade is shorter than the CRJ with the same pay. N2M the training department will make you fall in love with the plane.

broncoflyer8912, if you don't get it a week before your class call the hiring dept and confirm it was mailed.

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Ok thanks flybywire, I figured it had to be by a week before the class, so I haven't quite reached that yet, I guess I'm just anxious for the packet to arrive, because I am really excited to get down to Atlanta and start training

How old r u?

22, will be 23 in Jan

Ahh, cool. Well you're at the age for the ATR, but it just hit me that ASA's classes are not running full so you may get the RJ. I'm not sure how they will work the disto with a partially full class.

Good luck.

Yeah when I was in FlightSafety for the sim ride, there was a guy in the current training class who was from my school, and he said they are taking 4 people from every other class for the ATR, so that puts my class as the one that will take 4 for the ATR, but I guess I won't know for sure until I get there. Do they do the assigning for what aircraft on the first day of training?

No, its a few days into the class. I want to say the 2nd day you bid and the 3rd you get your award. But you'll all have it figured out the first day by the vending machines. ;)

What hotel were you put up in during training?

Redroof, they moved us out. Something about rats, crime and Marijuana smoke moving through the vent system.

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haha nice, I'd stayed at the RedRoof when I came down for the interview, I wasn't too impressed but at least it is very close to FlightSafety and the GO building. I think it would be cool to be put up in the Renaissance hotel with a balcony room facing the field, but then that might be too distracting for me to study my systems, etc. LOL

I was at the Holiday Inn Select. About a 5 min. drive, but it was nice. They should call you before class starts and tell you what hotel you are in.

Alright, I'll just make sure to call if I don't hear anything within a week of my class date.

Thanks for all your help guys!!! :-D

What is the upgrade time in the ATR vs the 200?

Also, since the ATR is much slower than the CRJ, wouldn't an ATR pilot be able to have more block time, and therefore make more money than a CRJ pilot, or are the routes structured to where it doesn't make a difference?

ATR upgrade will fall below 2 years in a 2-3 months... CRJ upgrade will take a a bit longer to hit 2 years.

Citationdrvrmob is on to something here...