Flight Safety program at American Eagle.
11-17-2007, 02:11 PM
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Flight Safety program at American Eagle.
Hello everyone. I was checking out Jetcareers.com and have a question.
The applicants that American Eagle hires that are low timers, 400/50, from what I understand are to attend a flight safety refresher program to get ones used to the RJ's that Eagle has on property and to polish them up, so that when they get to American Airlines flight Academy,they are more likely to finish training unscathed.
My questions,
1. Is this program true? (and if so...)
2. Are you paid or given a per diem?
3. How long is the program ?
4. Which Flight Safety Campus is it at?
5. What's the interview like?
Thanks for the replies.
The applicants that American Eagle hires that are low timers, 400/50, from what I understand are to attend a flight safety refresher program to get ones used to the RJ's that Eagle has on property and to polish them up, so that when they get to American Airlines flight Academy,they are more likely to finish training unscathed.
My questions,
1. Is this program true? (and if so...)
2. Are you paid or given a per diem?
3. How long is the program ?
4. Which Flight Safety Campus is it at?
5. What's the interview like?
Thanks for the replies.
11-17-2007, 02:17 PM
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interesting, all i'd heard was the low minimums, which i was assuming were for special candidates...but, that sounds like a good way to guarantee success in the RJ training environment....wouldn't doubt it if others' adopt it too.
11-17-2007, 03:28 PM
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http://www.raaflightschools.com/airl...ican_eagle.asp
This should explain everything, and oh yeah the cost is $20,000.00 to be paid by you!
This should explain everything, and oh yeah the cost is $20,000.00 to be paid by you!
11-17-2007, 03:57 PM
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I went to FlightSafety Academy in Vero...i loved it there...but since ive left...my friends who instruct down there say it has taken a turn for the worse.
The program you are refering to is called the "Direct Track" program. They run it with ASA, TSA, Expressjet and Eagle. Its basically a crash course to get you ready for Airline ground school. You interview with your airline of choice and they give you a COE (Conditional Offer of Employment)
Then you do a couple of seminole flight as a crew learning your airline callouts. Then on to ERJ systems for 2 weeks and finally 2 weeks of Level D sim training in the ERJ 145. No type is issued.
When i left it was 28,000$ for the program. At the time it was a bargain for guys who were career change pilots who didnt have time to instruct. But we all know what PFT does to the industry. You also needed 300/35 for Eagles program and 400/100 for Expressjet. ASA and TSA had no hour requirements
From a friend who still teaches down there, FSI has dropped the cost down to 17K and if you get on with Eagle, they pay for 10K...so you only end up paying 7.
FSI instructors are hands down, some of the best trained in the world, the program has like a 99% success rate. But with the way regionals are hiring...why spend the extra cash?
The program you are refering to is called the "Direct Track" program. They run it with ASA, TSA, Expressjet and Eagle. Its basically a crash course to get you ready for Airline ground school. You interview with your airline of choice and they give you a COE (Conditional Offer of Employment)
Then you do a couple of seminole flight as a crew learning your airline callouts. Then on to ERJ systems for 2 weeks and finally 2 weeks of Level D sim training in the ERJ 145. No type is issued.
When i left it was 28,000$ for the program. At the time it was a bargain for guys who were career change pilots who didnt have time to instruct. But we all know what PFT does to the industry. You also needed 300/35 for Eagles program and 400/100 for Expressjet. ASA and TSA had no hour requirements
From a friend who still teaches down there, FSI has dropped the cost down to 17K and if you get on with Eagle, they pay for 10K...so you only end up paying 7.
FSI instructors are hands down, some of the best trained in the world, the program has like a 99% success rate. But with the way regionals are hiring...why spend the extra cash?
11-17-2007, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyboy8784
I went to FlightSafety Academy in Vero...i loved it there...but since ive left...my friends who instruct down there say it has taken a turn for the worse.
The program you are refering to is called the "Direct Track" program. They run it with ASA, TSA, Expressjet and Eagle. Its basically a crash course to get you ready for Airline ground school. You interview with your airline of choice and they give you a COE (Conditional Offer of Employment)
Then you do a couple of seminole flight as a crew learning your airline callouts. Then on to ERJ systems for 2 weeks and finally 2 weeks of Level D sim training in the ERJ 145. No type is issued.
When i left it was 28,000$ for the program. At the time it was a bargain for guys who were career change pilots who didnt have time to instruct. But we all know what PFT does to the industry. You also needed 300/35 for Eagles program and 400/100 for Expressjet. ASA and TSA had no hour requirements
From a friend who still teaches down there, FSI has dropped the cost down to 17K and if you get on with Eagle, they pay for 10K...so you only end up paying 7.
FSI instructors are hands down, some of the best trained in the world, the program has like a 99% success rate. But with the way regionals are hiring...why spend the extra cash?
The program you are refering to is called the "Direct Track" program. They run it with ASA, TSA, Expressjet and Eagle. Its basically a crash course to get you ready for Airline ground school. You interview with your airline of choice and they give you a COE (Conditional Offer of Employment)
Then you do a couple of seminole flight as a crew learning your airline callouts. Then on to ERJ systems for 2 weeks and finally 2 weeks of Level D sim training in the ERJ 145. No type is issued.
When i left it was 28,000$ for the program. At the time it was a bargain for guys who were career change pilots who didnt have time to instruct. But we all know what PFT does to the industry. You also needed 300/35 for Eagles program and 400/100 for Expressjet. ASA and TSA had no hour requirements
From a friend who still teaches down there, FSI has dropped the cost down to 17K and if you get on with Eagle, they pay for 10K...so you only end up paying 7.
FSI instructors are hands down, some of the best trained in the world, the program has like a 99% success rate. But with the way regionals are hiring...why spend the extra cash?
11-17-2007, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by On Autopilot
Has I was searching the web, I saw that EAGLE was sending people down there and supposedly picking up the tab, that you were given per diem and room and board, but no paycheck.
11-17-2007, 06:31 PM
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the fact that paying for peoples training as opposed to paying higher wages makes me think that the market is such that the qualified pilots aren't typically willing to jump ship and the guys at the bottom are struggling through training...meaning there actually might be a pilot shortage.
11-17-2007, 08:52 PM
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I'm currently in the ASA program at Flight Safety Academy, and Eagle is now picking up the tab on the entire direct track course as long as you pass. The first two guys finished on Thursday. The classes are filling up like crazy for the course which is pretty short. 2 Seminole Flights, 1 week ERJ 145 System training, 4 days CPT Training, and 6 ERJ Sim Rides including a check ride with Eagle. I know two guys washed out of the first class. I think Flight Safety students hiring minimums for Eagle is 250/50 now. I wish ASA would pick up some of the cost of my training, I'm haveing to pay 18k, but flying the ERJ Sim is a lot of fun.
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