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detpilot 12-17-2007 12:23 AM

Mesaba
 
Is Mesaba working on a new contract soon?

$31/hour for a 3rd year CRJ-900 FO is horrific!

Just happened to look at that, and I thought "they've gotta be working on something..." Any news?

N2rotation 12-17-2007 06:13 AM

Yep. NWA mainline FO pay for that size aircraft is a bit higher. I really do hope they are working on something, seeing how Mesaba and Compass is currently Northwest's mainline growth.

Tinpusher007 12-17-2007 06:27 AM

Our contract is concessionary right now, from when we were 'taken' into BK. It is my understanding that once we take delivery of all new airplanes our pay will snap back to what it used to be. But don't quote me on that...I really need to read the contract thoroughly. There are guys on here that know better than me.

RJ85FO 12-17-2007 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by detpilot (Post 281451)
Is Mesaba working on a new contract soon?

$31/hour for a 3rd year CRJ-900 FO is horrific!

Just happened to look at that, and I thought "they've gotta be working on something..." Any news?

Our concessionary agreement is amendable in 2012. Mesaba has always been on the low side paywise for jet FO's. We have a blended FO pay rate. Consequently, the Saab FO's are a bit above average, while the jet FO's are below. We do have snapback provisions in the current TA, but it only puts us back to where we were we would have been in 2008 under the old contract. The snapbacks start Dec 1, 2008 and add 1-2% per year until 2010 when we will be fully wage "recovered."

CloudPilot57 12-17-2007 07:00 AM

What is the "recovered" rate? Moreover, what were the rates in 2006?

Tinpusher007 12-17-2007 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by RJ85FO (Post 281557)
Our concessionary agreement is amendable in 2012. Mesaba has always been on the low side paywise for jet FO's. We have a blended FO pay rate. Consequently, the Saab FO's are a bit above average, while the jet FO's are below. We do have snapback provisions in the current TA, but it only puts us back to where we were in 2006. The snapbacks start Dec 1, 2008 and add 1-2% per year until 2010 when we will be fully wage "recovered."

I was hoping you would clarify...I knew you'd know.

RJ85FO 12-17-2007 07:07 AM


Originally Posted by CloudPilot57 (Post 281558)
What is the "recovered" rate? Moreover, what were the rates in 2006?

3rd year FO pay in 2010 will be $34.13/hr

I edited my earlier post to clarify the wage recovery. The snapbacks implemented through 2010, will take us back to where we would have been in 2008 with no bankruptcy.

LoudFastRules 12-17-2007 07:18 AM

Remember, it is a "blended" rate. That's good for the Saab FO's, and bad for the jet FO's. It is what it is. All the more incentive to upgrade as soon as possible.

WIPilot 12-20-2007 02:17 PM

It pays to read the contract ;)

Tinpusher007 12-20-2007 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by WIPilot (Post 284161)
It pays to read the contract ;)

Yes it does and Im making an effort to now. But during initial training, I never picked that thing up. Had too much other crap to learn.


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