Glad he worked out for ya. The spread offense he's using is exciting to watch and seems to exploit the big ten's biggest weakness on defense. It also doesn't hurt having players like Juice and Mendenhall. I was kind of disappointed when Illinois went to the rose bowl instead of the capital one bowl. It would have made for a good game and a great underlying story (Zooker vs. Meyer). But, then again it'll probably be just as much fun watching you guys square off with USC. It's a shame college football will be all over with in under two weeks. Good luck with your bowl game.

Go Gators!

 

Everyone needs to stop whining. Even 200 hour wonderboys still have to meet FAA requirements for certification. I think that everyone is just jealous since they had to have 1500 hours before getting hired. In most cases, I think the lower time guys have an easier time adapting due to their limited experience. You spend too long doing one thing, you get in a routine and it is hard to change and learn something new. Thats why I think Southwest hires guys with 3000 hours versus guys with 10000 hours, or so I have heard. I instructed for two years, yet the fresh commercial wonderboys in my class had an easier time than I did. Lay off these guys. If we can't staff the regionals, how can you run the companies? You can't just interview someone and say, "wanna be a pilot?" There is a shortage of pilots, no matter which way you look at it. It is either these guys or nothing. If not them, then the companies would go out of business and we would all be with out jobs.

 

"Everyone needs to stop whining"

Not gonna happen.

"Even 200 hour wonderboys still have to meet FAA requirements for certification."

That standard is far to low for pax airline jets.

"I think that everyone is just jealous since they had to have 1500 hours before getting hired"

Not jealous, just appalled...

"I instructed for two years, yet the fresh commercial wonderboys in my class had an easier time than I did."

That makes no sense, really. Before you knock the system, you should look in the mirror and wonder where you went wrong. Why would someone with far less experience than you be a better pilot?

Texas, you are barking up the wrong tree at this site. More power to ya for saying what you think, but don't expect the masses to buy it for a second. Most of the guys here have been around long enough to know better.

 

Yeah but all the low time "aces" probably came from a jet transition course where they get the systems spoon fed to them and spend lot's of time playing in a Level D sim. It's almost like getting to go though training twice, and even then many still don't make it.

 

I really do not appreciate the stab at my piloting skills, but I guess you can't help it.

These guys that I am referring to had training in the aircraft prior to getting hired through a paid training program. I came straight from instructing and flying nothing bigger than a Piper Seneca. I could say I'm a far better piston pilot than them, but when it comes to a jet, we are all on the same level. I would say I have to be a fairly decent pilot to make it through training without any type of prior specialized training. I think in todays day and time it is unecessary to pay for those programs since the mins are so low, but if someone does and it helps them learn the jet better, so be it. These guys fly the aircraft very well from what I have seen. I do not feel they are dangerous whatsoever. The only problem I can see from most of them is that they are cocky and think they are the golden one.

Oh, and I never said I didn't make it through training. It was just a harder adaptation for me than these guys with the jet school. Systems and ground training was a breeze due to my military and college education, but sim was tough. Callouts, flows, and long checklists and complex procedures were non-existant in a C-172. Until you get some time under your belt, it is very easy for the airplane to get ahead of you when you are used to cruising at 100 knots. Thats why it was harder.

 

Texas I definitely understand your frustration, but I also dont understand where all this resentment comes of us low time guys. I know there are quite a few low timers that have no business being at the airlines yet, but some of us have busted our ass to be good at what we do.

Its very discouraging to hear alot of these senior guys telling us we have no business even attempting a 121 ground school. First of all each of us have different backgrounds, and some of us have done things previously that are as hard or harder than a regional ground school. Some of us are slackers and some of us are very hard workers. I really wish these senior guys wouldnt group all of us together as being "dangerous" and not having enough experience.

Ok rant over... ill go back to playing nice...

 

"no business even attempting a 121 ground school."

Ground school? Go for it.

121 F/O in a 70 pax jet that says Delta on the side of it? Well, that's another story. It puts line Capts in the position of baby sitter and flight instructor. Now, to a certain degree, that's always been the case, but the bar has gone to low when they start taking wet commercials from an RJ program.

Of course, that would just be my opinion based on my experience. I guess it's a brave new world, now. Glad I'm sitting it out...

 

Stryker, I am on your side, not against you.

 

We'll stop when you prove yourselves long term. Right now you are dangerous and inexperienced. You may not realize it or just not want to admit it but there's no substitute for real world experience.

 

I remember when Riddle installed a Beech 1900 sim in the late 90s. The guys who took that course came out thinking they were turbine gods cause they had time in a Level D Beech 1900 sim. B