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Jetjock65 12-22-2007 11:54 AM

Republic
 
Have been sending my applications out to a few diff. Regionals w/ Republic being my first choice. Any info on Real time pay, quality of life etc. would be greatly appreciated. Im making the move from the corprate world and any other top-tier Regionals you can suggest would also be helpful.
Thanks for all your help I hear alot of horror stories about some of these places and dont wanna give up what I have for a bottom-feeder outfit.

My times are Roughly 1250 tt /800 Jet

JetJock16 12-22-2007 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by Jetjock65 (Post 285261)
Have been sending my applications out to a few diff. Regionals w/ Republic being my first choice. Any info on Real time pay, quality of life etc. would be greatly appreciated. Im making the move from the corprate world and any other top-tier Regionals you can suggest would also be helpful.
Thanks for all your help I hear alot of horror stories about some of these places and dont wanna give up what I have for a bottom-feeder outfit.

My times are Roughly 1250 tt /800 Jet

Check out SKW, with your times you can get an interview ASAP. Total compensation & QOL are among the nations highest.

Jetjock65 12-22-2007 12:05 PM

How are upgrade times?

JetJock16 12-22-2007 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by Jetjock65 (Post 285266)
How are upgrade times?

Currently around 1.5-2 years on the RJ with ORD & MKE being the most junior, we had some upgrade in less than a year but mainly because they had the minimums (2500TT/1000 crew). Also our current reserve time on the RJ is about 1-2 months.

On the EMB you can upgrade in less than a year but you need the above mins as well.

Look for our upgrades to remain between 2-3 years or less on the RJ and 1 year on the EMB, based upon our current contracts. Yes we are reducing our EMB fleet from 62 to 44 (reduction of 18) but that's not going to change our upgrades on the EMB due to the large number of transitioning pilots (EMB CA/FO to CRJ CA/FO), we are also replacing those EMB's with 23 RJ's. (23-18=5 additional a/c)

I posted our training schedule for the first half of 08 on this thread, check it out.

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/sh...780#post281780

SharkyBN584 12-22-2007 04:00 PM

I was happy at RAH until this week. My current philosophy is to (make up your own expletive) this place...

Upgrade is about 12-15 months and the pay/work rules are livable....if they pay you right (and that's a big if). The union is worthless.

ScaryKite 12-22-2007 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by SharkyBN584 (Post 285376)
I was happy at RAH until this week. My current philosophy is to (make up your own expletive) this place...

Upgrade is about 12-15 months and the pay/work rules are livable....if they pay you right (and that's a big if). The union is worthless.


what happened man!! Joe is gone! You just got your x-mas bonus! Your upgrading soon! You should love it here! Who cares if the teamsters rob you blind! We're flying shiny jets!

motoboy 12-22-2007 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by ScaryKite (Post 285388)
what happened man!! Joe is gone! You just got your x-mas bonus! Your upgrading soon! You should love it here! Who cares if the teamsters rob you blind! We're flying shiny jets!

Nothing like the enjoyable burn of a grizz wint lip:)

TonyMontana 12-22-2007 05:11 PM

cool! Real cool!

ToiletDuck 12-22-2007 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by SharkyBN584 (Post 285376)
I was happy at RAH until this week. My current philosophy is to (make up your own expletive) this place...

Upgrade is about 12-15 months and the pay/work rules are livable....if they pay you right (and that's a big if). The union is worthless.

This doesn't sound like you. Spill the beans. What happened?

Vectorfly 12-22-2007 06:42 PM

RAH upgrades are sitting at a low of 14 months for BUF on the 145 to forever in places like GSO that are senior. 170's are going a little senior and even if you do upgrade fast to them, expect to be on reserve for the rest of your career when the 145 capts move over to them.

Pay is showing 28k gross after it's all said and done for my first year.
It's not a bad place at all. Fill a room with pilots and money, there will be some kind of complaint...

he's probably cranky about January's schedules. 73 hours, and 15 days off, I can't complain..

JetJock16 12-22-2007 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by Vectorfly (Post 285467)
RAH upgrades are sitting at a low of 14 months for BUF on the 145 to forever in places like GSO that are senior. 170's are going a little senior and even if you do upgrade fast to them, expect to be on reserve for the rest of your career when the 145 capts move over to them.

Pay is showing 28k gross after it's all said and done for my first year.
It's not a bad place at all. Fill a room with pilots and money, there will be some kind of complaint...

he's probably cranky about January's schedules. 73 hours, and 15 days off, I can't complain..

If I get 15 days off I'd better be credited 90+. I'm used to 17-18 days off with 87-90 credit, but 73? Well I am pretty senior, but even the majority of our junior pilots here get at least 82+ hours of credit when they get 15 days off.

ExperimentalAB 12-22-2007 08:18 PM

Not senior here by any means, but happy with 16 days and 82 hrs...plenty of room for picking up stand-ups and open-time to destroy 100 credit - maybe I can beat my own personal record of 143:22 :D

spartanpilot 12-22-2007 08:46 PM

Does anyone know how likely is it to get St. Louis as a domicile when working for CHQ?

ScaryKite 12-23-2007 03:39 AM

Yeah i got 12 days off and I only credit 83 hours! Its definately a huge pile of B.S.!!!!! But thats how the pairings are when you do SDF-CVG then CVG to LEX and then a 21 hour layover! Oh well!

Paok 12-23-2007 04:53 AM

Question, do they just send you where they want to if you get hired (meaning shuttle repb or chatq) or do 121 people usually go to the 170's and others go to the 145/135 operation? When/how can you bid to different equipment etc etc etc.....I am just curious if anything were to happen to my job here, Republic in PHL seems ideal..... just curious

kansas 12-23-2007 05:36 AM


Originally Posted by ScaryKite (Post 285594)
Yeah i got 12 days off and I only credit 83 hours! Its definately a huge pile of B.S.!!!!! But thats how the pairings are when you do SDF-CVG then CVG to LEX and then a 21 hour layover! Oh well!

And commander explanation point strikes again.

Vectorfly 12-23-2007 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by spartanpilot (Post 285548)
Does anyone know how likely is it to get St. Louis as a domicile when working for CHQ?

STL is the largest 145 base. It would be pretty easy to get that out of training I would think. The trips are much better in STL as well. CVG probably has the worst trips of all the bases.



Originally Posted by Paok (Post 285622)
Question, do they just send you where they want to if you get hired (meaning shuttle repb or chatq) or do 121 people usually go to the 170's and others go to the 145/135 operation? When/how can you bid to different equipment etc etc etc.....I am just curious if anything were to happen to my job here, Republic in PHL seems ideal..... just curious

When they call and tell you the good news that your hired, then you will find out what certificate you'll be under. IF that is NOT the cert you want to be under I would say the following: "if a early class date becomes available on XXX cert, please let me know, and I will take this even on short notice." Then pack a bag, and be ready to answer and 317 area code before voicemail, else your out of luck. I'm 60 numbers lower because of missing that call @$#%@, cause they don't leave a voicemail..

Your seat locked for 2 years, but they cannot keep you from making more money by upgrading. This means that a FO can upgrade before the 2 years is up.

SharkyBN584 12-23-2007 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by ScaryKite (Post 285388)
what happened man!! Joe is gone! You just got your x-mas bonus! Your upgrading soon! You should love it here! Who cares if the teamsters rob you blind! We're flying shiny jets!

Long story...but scheduling is worse with Joe gone. A lot worse. I've never had any of the problems I'm having now when he was around. If you're on AVL...prepare to get hosed in every way possible. Crew Planning can suck it too.


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 285454)
This doesn't sound like you. Spill the beans. What happened?

See above.


Originally Posted by Vectorfly (Post 285467)
he's probably cranky about January's schedules. 73 hours, and 15 days off, I can't complain..

HA. Yea right. Try 16 days off with an 84 hour line, and it's only like that cuz I needed the whole first week of January off. Of course...the 18 day off 91 hour line I had for December (all weekends/christmas/new years off) was a lot better. My schedule (that I actually bid for, not the one that gets completely destroyed by scheduling) is the one thing I don't have to complain about. :D

CL-65DRIVER 12-23-2007 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by JetJock16 (Post 285499)
If I get 15 days off I'd better be credited 90+. I'm used to 17-18 days off with 87-90 credit, but 73? Well I am pretty senior, but even the majority of our junior pilots here get at least 82+ hours of credit when they get 15 days off.

Oh man we should all go work there!! I'm just dreaming it now... Based in Sac-town or Fresyes, $19/hr great management team that only cares about pilots ( I mean they don't need a union right?). Or Maybe i can be Modesto based and finally be able to attend the almond industry conference I've been dying to go to.

JetJock16 12-23-2007 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by Vectorfly (Post 285467)
Pay is showing 28k gross after it's all said and done for my first year.
It's not a bad place at all. Fill a room with pilots and money, there will be some kind of complaint.


Originally Posted by CL-65DRIVER (Post 285660)
Oh man we should all go work there!! I'm just dreaming it now... Based in Sac-town or Fresyes, $19/hr great management team that only cares about pilots ( I mean they don't need a union right?). Or Maybe i can be Modesto based and finally be able to attend the almond industry conference I've been dying to go to.

Even at $19 an hour I made $28K my first year at SKW where as the above pilot made it at RAH making $23. In my first full year with SKW I made $51,619.78 which included 4 months at first year pay ($19/hr) and 8 months at second. I achieved this number by only flying 879 hours and averaging 15 days off a month. An understanding of the system and the ability to work it can maximize time off and income potential. It's not hard with stand-ups, deadheads, duty guarantees, daily guarantees, open time, holiday pay and getting displaced for IOE (then picking up open time at %150 pay on top of the credit for the displaced trip).

First year pay is going to be raised to around $24 in January.

Yes, we at SKW drink a lot of Kool-Aid, but Mgmnt has NEVER giving us a good reason not to have faith in them. Regardless of what you or others may say the majority of the industry dreams of a relationship like what we have.

So "Bottoms Up!"

ToiletDuck 12-23-2007 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by JetJock16 (Post 285499)
If I get 15 days off I'd better be credited 90+. I'm used to 17-18 days off with 87-90 credit, but 73? Well I am pretty senior, but even the majority of our junior pilots here get at least 82+ hours of credit when they get 15 days off.

We all have different circumstances. I can get 18 off in STL right now but I'm a commuter so I prefer to bid specific commutable trips.

Jetjock65 12-23-2007 07:13 PM

Why are you no longer happy at rah (wich cert are you on)?
Where would you go if you were me ?

SharkyBN584 12-23-2007 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by Jetjock65 (Post 285967)
Why are you no longer happy at rah (wich cert are you on)?
Where would you go if you were me ?

Overall, I actually am happy here. Things over the last week have irritated the living hell outta me but in the grand scheme of things probably don't matter too much. I'm just not going to be doing any favors any time soon (which isn't really all that different from the normal me so I doubt they'll even notice).

I'm on the CHQ certificate. I can't tell you where to go because I'm not you. If you want to be out west, I'd say SKW. If you want to be in the east, I'd say RAH. It's really a toss up.

Jetjock65 12-23-2007 09:51 PM

Thanks for your insight sounds like from some people on the forums that possily commuting to STL from MCO may be an option? How senior is STL?

TonyWilliams 12-23-2007 11:06 PM


Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB (Post 285522)
Not senior here by any means, but happy with 16 days and 82 hrs...


Through the summer, I was a line holder blocking 95 hours (sorry, don't really keep track of credit). Usually 16 days, with 4 four-day trips.

As of Jan 2008, I'm on reserve in SLC. I do my last trip (sniff, sniff) on the 27th, five days, AUS, BUF, ATL, SFO overnights.

G-Dog 12-24-2007 01:21 AM


Originally Posted by TonyWilliams (Post 286065)
Through the summer, I was a line holder blocking 95 hours (sorry, don't really keep track of credit).

Who does not keep track of credit? That is your pay! :eek:

POPA 12-24-2007 04:48 AM


Originally Posted by JetJock16 (Post 285688)
First year pay is going to be raised to around $24 in January.

Is that to coincide with the SWA flying?

JetJock16 12-24-2007 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by POPA (Post 286112)
Is that to coincide with the SWA flying?

There is no SWA flying, it's just a rumor and I put no real stock in rumors. Yes I've discuss them but personally they have no merit until the a/c start showing up.

JetJock16 12-24-2007 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by TonyWilliams (Post 286065)
Through the summer, I was a line holder blocking 95 hours (sorry, don't really keep track of credit). Usually 16 days, with 4 four-day trips.

As of Jan 2008, I'm on reserve in SLC. I do my last trip (sniff, sniff) on the 27th, five days, AUS, BUF, ATL, SFO overnights.

You don't keep track of your credit? You need to keep record of each leg so you can confirm etrip and your paychecks. Not only have I caught errors on etrip but some times etrip can be right and your paychecks wrong.

It’s your money; make sure it doesn’t become theirs!

Aviatormar 12-24-2007 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by CL-65DRIVER (Post 285660)
Oh man we should all go work there!! I'm just dreaming it now... Based in Sac-town or Fresyes, $19/hr great management team that only cares about pilots ( I mean they don't need a union right?). Or Maybe i can be Modesto based and finally be able to attend the almond industry conference I've been dying to go to.

That's awesome, I lived in that area and almond industry conference was the highlight of the year for the locals, so way to go SKW with your bases, I mean Fresno is soo cool after all.

ExperimentalAB 12-24-2007 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by CL-65DRIVER (Post 285660)
Oh man we should all go work there!! I'm just dreaming it now... Based in Sac-town or Fresyes, $19/hr great management team that only cares about pilots ( I mean they don't need a union right?). Or Maybe i can be Modesto based and finally be able to attend the almond industry conference I've been dying to go to.

Should we just start calling you Scrooge now?? Are you bitter and jealous or just enjoy baggin' on a good place to work :rolleyes: You have zero credibility my friend...get an idea of what you're talking about before you come here bashing my Company.

JetJock16 12-24-2007 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by CL-65DRIVER (Post 285660)
Oh man we should all go work there!! I'm just dreaming it now... Based in Sac-town or Fresyes, $19/hr great management team that only cares about pilots ( I mean they don't need a union right?). Or Maybe i can be Modesto based and finally be able to attend the almond industry conference I've been dying to go to.

We don't have a Modesto domicile; Sac-Town and Frestucky, yes. If SKW is so bad the why is our attrition rate low and 121ers are jumping ship for a chance to become a "Jerry's Kid."

ToiletDuck 12-24-2007 02:28 PM

$51k is a nice pull. Helps once you get a little seniority under you. January is my last month of bidding for specific things then I'll start pulling it a little harder myself. I'll admit I need to learn the ropes a little bitter about maximizing the pay. However if anyone wants any tips I'm the king of not working lol. One last vacation to take in Jan then I can get serious :D

ScaryKite 12-24-2007 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 286388)
$51k is a nice pull. Helps once you get a little seniority under you. January is my last month of bidding for specific things then I'll start pulling it a little harder myself. I'll admit I need to learn the ropes a little bitter about maximizing the pay. However if anyone wants any tips I'm the king of not working lol. One last vacation to take in Jan then I can get serious :D


here at RAH, well at least the Chautauqua side, there is no good way to maximize your pay! First of all our line values are way too low. The average line barely has enough time off to pick up any open time! And if you do try to pick up open time, too bad! its already been given to half of the reserves in the various domiciles about 48 hours after the final awards are posted! Most regionals give you 150 percent pay for time and half all the time! We only get "premium" pay whenever the company plans poorly and they get in a bind and its only for specific equipment, seats, and domiciles! Too add insult to injury when they do come begging for us to bail them out and pick up extra flying they only offer 15 dollars an hour override for FOs and 30 for captains! Thats a good percentage if your a first year FO or your a 2 or 3 year captain, but if you more senior the override is less than 150 percent! Combine that with when the flights cancel this winter and we dont even come close to our 98.5% completion factor! Theres some lost pay as well. I guess if you go to STL and get one of the good lines worth 90 hours and 15 or so days off. You could pick up some trips here and there and that would help, but if your based in SDF, IND, CVG, or CMH! You might as well save all of your whoppin 12-13 days off to spend time away from the airport!

I know this message seems kind of bitter, but it is one of the downfalls to CHQ. Unless your based in STL the schedules are just horrible! Dont get me wrong RAH is a good airline, there are some issues but all in all its not too bad! I really like it here so far and beeing based at home is really nice! But at my previous airline, TSA, it was much easier to bid a good schedule and pick up/drop some trips to work the system. Here at CHQ, well in the Joe C. days at least, its nearly impossible to drop trips. I But i definately didnt get into this job for the money! at least not at first, so beeing based at home and bidding reserve here and there has given me a huge leap in QOL with less pay compared to better pay and ********y QOL,at the old place!

ToiletDuck 12-24-2007 08:07 PM

Well I am STL based and can hold 90hrs with 16-17days off so :P

cbire880 12-24-2007 09:29 PM

I'm PHL based and have been consistently holding 85-90 hours with 14 days off. That's about standard for the FOs except for the senior few who can hold the day trips.

HercDriver130 12-25-2007 04:15 AM

think about this... the company has NO incentive ( and shouldnt ) to build 90 hour lines as the average, if they did, all the line holders would be timing out in late november..... how stupid would that be on their part. Certainly everyone wants to be better utilized on the days they do work but realize from an operational standpoint that 90 hour lines across the board just make no sense for the company. We as pilots would love to time out every November. My personal thought is that 80-85 lines with trip and duty rigs are the ticket. Both sides win in that situation.

ashcroft79 12-25-2007 04:28 AM

It doesn't have to be that we all want 90 hr lines. We would like to have productive lines 80hrs a month with 15+ days off instead of 12 days off

HercDriver130 12-25-2007 04:33 AM

absolutely. Better productivity per day should be a goal.

cbire880 12-25-2007 06:24 AM

Yeah, I tried to bid min sked for Jan to get an extra day off. I ended up with 87 hours and 14 days off. Same thing I've gotten for the last two months.


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