Citationdrvrmob,

Thank you for standing up for what you believe is just. First year pay is a joke, and the $4/hr difference makes $300/month difference. So please keep the company honest and stand up for what is right.


Whatever happens, will you please let us know the outcome?
Thank you.

 

I didn't realize that confirming my pay and wanting to get what I was offered was "making waves." I haven't and will not say anymore to anyone at ASA until Wednesday, after the higher ups have had chance to review it. I will not, however, just bend over and take what they give me. That, in my mind, is one of the biggest problems with this industry. As much as I'd love to spend some quality time here at ASA, they are not the only game in town, they are not the only one to offer me a job, they are not the great and powerful Oz, and they need me more than I need them. ASA just happens to fit my needs more than the rest do at the moment. When the pay they offer you is already low, and then they decide to tell you "it was a mistake," and reduce that pay by $300/month, I can't imagine why anyone else would not understand my being mad.

 

Let us know how it turns out. I would suspect that many of your classmates are equally as interested in the outcome. Good luck in your training. See you on line soon.

 

Whow there big fella....I think you have jumped to conclusions. I suffered through low wages for a year, and I would love to make more as a second year F/O. I have no love for the industry that seeks to hire qualified professionals and pay them minimal wages.....but, you and I both knew coming into a regional airline that you would be paid less than a fry cook at McDonald's so spare me your sermon on what you deserve as an AIRLINE pilot. I support your ambition to seek what is right. I'm just giving you some advise. Pull your silver spoon from your mouth. Just remember....there are some that had to PAY for there training AFTER they were hired at a regional. Good luck there Junior.

 

and the Zero to Hero attitude won't get you far either.

 

I'm not saying the company is right or wrong, but this seems like one of those "pick your battles" moments. You're talking about roughly $600. If it is worth $600 to you to raise a stink, take them to court, cheese a bunch of people off, etc then by all means. Just try and keep it in perspective. I understand theres a principle involved but it seems like an awful lot of hassle and grief for very little reward.

 

I was in the indoc class ahead of you - and the pay situation was the same with us. Our first paycheck should hit the mailboxes soon; we'll see what it actually amounts to.

The problem in implementing the new contract seems to be a struggle across the board. Pilots were calling to invoke the commuter clause the morning after the TA passed, and the schedulers didn't know what they were talking about!

Under the new contract, as I understand, pilots in training will make $300 a week, as opposed to the $19.02/75HR deal before. What seemed to be the most consistent answer is that pilots who start class before the end of the year get the old training rate, the extra money...

We never heard anything about making minimum guarantee at 23/hr.. they said we'd be on training pay until the start of IOE, at which point we go to 23/hour.

Clear as mud? Same here. Let's just see what the first paycheck does in a couple days and go from there.

 

I agree completely, they know there's a problem, I should let them try to settle it. I guess $600-$900 is worth not having to sign a 2 year training agreement. I'm just glad I have this place to vent instead of actually banging on HR's door (for now :P).

 

Amen, brother! A place to vent, beg, start unfounded rumors, make smart aleck remarks and ask stupid questions. Thanks, as always to HSLD and Freight Dawg for making this place happen. Even with the flame -baiters and -throwers, the information and comraderie this forum helps develop is amazing.

It's almost as good as Having a TCAS/radar overlay... we can see how the guys just ahead of us picked their way through the storm!

 

a higher up came into our class a week or so ago and told us that classes that start before jan 1 will be 19/75. after jan 1 goes to 23/75. theres was pleeeeeeenty of confusion with us as well.