How much flying does the FO do?
01-01-2008 | 11:37 AM
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If you're flying in and out of your base, and you do every other leg, one person tends to keep landing at the base. In that case, the captain may suggest that you each alternate flying the round trips.
I'm sure most companies have rules that apply when the captain must land. For instance, at SkyWest, the captain must land at SBP (5300 feet long). Or the captain must land in certain wind conditions.
I'm sure most companies have rules that apply when the captain must land. For instance, at SkyWest, the captain must land at SBP (5300 feet long). Or the captain must land in certain wind conditions.
01-01-2008 | 11:56 AM
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several captains i fly with will switch at outstations. that way everyone get to alternate. for example the captain would take it out. then i would bring it back to base and then i would take it to the next stop, and we would switch there again.
01-01-2008 | 12:02 PM
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We do alot of outstation changes.
When I was new, I would lie cheat and steal to fly in bad weather to get experince. I have had CA's that do not want to fly at all anymore, and I fly the whole trip.
but it really does help to split the legs, it really does help break things up and give you a break from what ever chores you are doing
Reeves
When I was new, I would lie cheat and steal to fly in bad weather to get experince. I have had CA's that do not want to fly at all anymore, and I fly the whole trip.
but it really does help to split the legs, it really does help break things up and give you a break from what ever chores you are doing
Reeves
01-01-2008 | 02:01 PM
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From: B-717 FO / C-17 AC
my philosophy is if i dont have to touch the controls while on first year pay (or ever for that matter), then i wont. consider it a pay raise when youre not the one making the takeoff or landing. sure its fun to fly. lazy yes, but easy, yes.
01-01-2008 | 07:56 PM
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I am just a "co-pilot" and we dont fly, we are there to observe for a few years and them right before upgrade we have magic dust sprinkled on us and then we are able to fly.
I know people who are more likely to believe this than an FO flying the plane. I had a FA ask me how we would land if the CA had a heart attack in flight. i explained that I would land to which she replied, "but you are not a pilot yet."
I know people who are more likely to believe this than an FO flying the plane. I had a FA ask me how we would land if the CA had a heart attack in flight. i explained that I would land to which she replied, "but you are not a pilot yet."
01-01-2008 | 09:25 PM
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I am just a "co-pilot" and we dont fly, we are there to observe for a few years and them right before upgrade we have magic dust sprinkled on us and then we are able to fly.
I know people who are more likely to believe this than an FO flying the plane. I had a FA ask me how we would land if the CA had a heart attack in flight. i explained that I would land to which she replied, "but you are not a pilot yet."
I know people who are more likely to believe this than an FO flying the plane. I had a FA ask me how we would land if the CA had a heart attack in flight. i explained that I would land to which she replied, "but you are not a pilot yet."
(Or just said- "Dunno. They don't train us for that... let's just hope it never happens!")
01-02-2008 | 02:12 AM
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on a short approach, I managed to leave the plane high and fast but managed to slow it down vapp before 500ft. I landed in the touchdown zone and in the centerline. Once we landed he talked to me while I was doing my postflight and said that was an unsafe approach. I just nodded, apologized and agreed! (give him the respect that he needs being the captain)
I don't think I'll be flying alot this month with this captain im paired with.
I don't think I'll be flying alot this month with this captain im paired with.
01-02-2008 | 02:25 AM
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on a short approach, I managed to leave the plane high and fast but managed to slow it down vapp before 500ft. I landed in the touchdown zone and in the centerline. Once we landed he talked to me while I was doing my postflight and said that was an unsafe approach. I just nodded, apologized and agreed! (give him the respect that he needs being the captain)
I don't think I'll be flying alot this month with this captain im paired with.
I don't think I'll be flying alot this month with this captain im paired with.
Who is more of a risk? You who are gaining some experience or a Capt who allows an "unsafe"approach? Ans: The Capt is the bigger risk because he/she lacks the brass to act like a Captain. If you ever feel uncomfortable with an approach, you should take it around. That is covered in our cockpit CRM brief on my flights (anyone uncomfortable, we take it around and talk later). Fortunately, our company has a no fault go around policy. All the more reason to let you fly a few more legs. Anyone can get behind the 8 ball on an approach, lots of reasons. Important is recognition it is going "unsafe" and go around. Here is an example with Santa Ana winds in ONT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow96L...9E862C&index=3
Last edited by SaltyDog; 01-02-2008 at 02:37 AM.
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