I've been told 3000 pilots by the end of the year. Just what I hear, as I said who knows? I don' think it'll be 2 years unlessyou want to hold certain equipment in a certain base. A lot of people do and are happy holding top lines in the left seat. That is what puts Captains in the 1300 range.

For reference, I was 1750 something when hired 8 months ago I am in the 16's high 15's now. Be nice if they had a accurate senority list. You and I have heard the same things, 190's for Delta and Airways, expansion at Frontier. These are all added seats. It is an interesting time to be here. I think you'll see attrition go up as well if the other companies are going to be able to keep hiring. The mickey mouse BS management is driving people out in droves.

PS: I think I can handle the simple math, thanks.

I have heard that their fail / drop out rate was relatively high in training, I heard something like 30%. :confused: Does this mean if you don't make it you still owe them 15K? Is it just when your hired that the contract is valid? It would be double jepordy to not have a job and owe them money on top of it all.:eek:

Don't see how this even makes sense....190's at Airways are already mainline and I'm certain they would be mainline for DAL as well. Can't see DAL pilots bending on that.

lol.......15 years ago.. mainline pilots said regionals would NEVER fly jets........

You only are commited to the note if you complete training, IOE and all. You need to be line qualified. The republic training, if you can't pass it you really don't deserve to be there. I know a couple of idiots on the CHQ certificate, so I can't imagine its too hard. As for shuttle, I know of a couple people not making it through that. Bottom line, know how to fly and all you need to do is learn a new aircraft and how they want you too fly it.

For 190's, I do NOT want to see them here. Frankly I think it will happen. The 190 guys at airways will all go to group 2 aircraft and a raise. The 190's will get flown cheaper because our current contract has fire sale wages on aircraft that they never imagined they would see. The new contract had better have some real language and pay rates in it for 190's and I mean FO's as well. The capt rates are not too bad, the FO rates are an insult to the industry.

X-jet Check airman are getting trained on 190s as we speak, I would say they are looking to put them on the branded flying but they are doing work for delta as well. 50 seat aircraft are going away, companies like Republic, skywest and many of the others will either evolve or disolve. I for one see evolution. If you have crystal ball that says whats going to happen speak up. Otherwise until you are sitting in it all of this is only speculation. Like I said earlier I am only passing on what I am hearing. And that is not a slow down in hiring or upgrades at Republic.

and its those same pilots who dropped the ball and allowed the regional airline industry to blossom into what it is today! way to go dinosaurs!!!!

Scary...we can debate the pro's and cons of that all day... all I am saying is people who make statements such that "XYZ" pilot group will NEVER relax their scope further... well thats just folly.... they have in the past and very well could in the future. Only time will tell.

true dat homie!

I was in the may 30th crj class. Jet Jock RM was in my class. Just to clarify a few things when we interviewed Linda B stood up in front of the class and told us the crj was half staffed. While I dont doubt that at the exact moment she made that statement the plane may have only been half staffed, by the time we finished ioe the plane was certainly fully staffed. Things could be much worse than being stuck on reserve forever in IAH. You could be stuck on reserve forever in a CRaPpy city in northeast mexico like myslef. I have averaged about 35 hours a month on reserve with my best month just over 60 and my worst was 6. There was no way to research the fact that my class would have been the last to go through for a long while. They said it was half staffed and we assumed that there would be movement. I will never assume anything ever again. The majority of us did feel lied to about that aspect of the job. I of course wish it was not company policy not to let FO's switch planes. I of course wish I would have tried to get swithced to a different plane before class, but I did not even suspect that I would have been in the last class. Now with all that being said there is no way in hell i would consider leaving this place. I am at a stable company with diversified codeshares, quick upgrades, and work rules that are not terrible. If I could go back in time to before class started knowing I would be on reserve this long I would do it over again in a heartbeat.
Another thing to keep in mind is all but two CRJ fo's were hired between 10/19/06 and 05/30/07. With upgrade times the way they are the majority of pilots have either gotten an upgrade award date, or will sometime soon unless of course they hold out for a more senior plane or base or dont have 2500 total. If you do want to come here on the crj for either the bonus or because of an unhealthy texas obsession now is the time to do it there will be movement soon.
As to what will happen in the fourth quarter of 08 if and when 7 crj's are pulled is anyones guess.

Lets Go Mets

I have over 1200 hrs. I wonder if thats why they assigned me the E145 since they are "upgrading at 1.2 yrs". You think its because they need Capts so bad? What is the 1500 hrs you are refering to? Is that what they want to be a 170 fo?

No, your 1200 hours has nothing to do with what aircraft you were assigned. Keep in mind any FO can upgrade as long as they have the flight time and their seniority can hold it. You got the 145 because they needed FO's on the 145. Just like 170 FO's get the 170 because they need 170 drivers, not because they're previous 121, have higher time, look cooler, or any of the other reasons that get thrown around.

Nah Sharky...you know the truth...the 170 guys are the cool kids...the rest are the pencil jet drivers.



Just kidding...or am I?

By the way, Sharky...You may not know it, but you know me...be scared.

Jim,
got hired on March 5th CRJ class. Looks like there is growth on this equipment as i am not the only one on that equipment.
I am a bit scared by the amount of hours that you mentioned though. :(
I have 1700+ hrs and i want to fly fly fly so that i can upgrade asap.

Thanks..

I got the March 5th too but they said I would go to the 145. I wonder if they told me wrong. Out of curiosity what kind of TT do you have? What date did you interview? I wonder if you were in my group. I was there Jan 30th. See you in IND on the fif. In fact I might plea the fif. 1 2 3 4 fif. :D

They probably didn't tell you wrong. They're hiring for both aircraft, though I don't think they're hiring very many for the CRJ. Most likely they'll put you all together in Indoc, then you'll have different systems and sim training (obviously). Of course I've heard of instances in the past where these things change the first day of Indoc. "We need volunteers to switch to the CRJ." Good Luck!

im going in on the 5th as well on the 145. There are 2 classes for the CHQ class, CRJ and the ERJ, Kim called me to see if I could switch to the crj but told her i needed the erj for personal reasons. I hope they don't voluntell me to switch at indoc.

I wish my engines were underneath the wings. Then I could look down on all the 145 guys in the crew room. :D

Nothing makes me happier than being told to reference a 170 and getting to say "Roger, we got the company RJ in sight." They love that...

P.S. - I caught you about 2 weeks ago...I only know of one gun-selling 170 FO. Guess who it is. Gimmie a call the next time your in IAH.

Unfortunatly there is no growth. We're losing seven crj's in the fourth quarter of this year, ten next year, and the remainder in 2010. This is what B.B. said in the 4th quarter conference call. We are finally starting to see some movement which is good. A lot of the initial hires on the crj have gotten awards for captain. Your class shouldnt be online until May and I think you will probobly fly more than I did. I've done the math and with all the people upgrading I think that they are going to need one additional crj class after yours to fill the positions of the guys upgrading. Hopefully you wont get stuck on reserve forever. Try not to spend your time worrying about things you cant control and instead spend that time studying for sims. Know your limititations, memory items, profiles, callouts and flows down cold. What hurt me a lot in sims was not having any glass time and trying to figure out the afcs. If you dont have any time flying glass I would get some kind of microsoft flight simulator to get yourself familiar. I wish I had. Good luck

2 weeks ago?? Must of seen me and not said hi...its been about a month since I saw you. I'll have to give you a call if I ever get stuck in that God forsaken city again! (Actually HOU isn't bad...just hate IAH)

Bad overnight or do you just hate the airport?

It wasn't that long ago that you needed to ATP mins to get the 170. That was all I was referring too. At this point if you have the ratings and a faint pulse you'll get either equipment. The only reason I wanted the RW cert was the bases. And it is "Mainline Republic" haha. Sharky is right about the upgrade, 2500 hours the right seniority number, and you miss a by-pass and you can pass the class you're in the left side.

Thanks all the good advice.. Now only if i could get my hands on the memory items for CRJ... that would make things worth studying before class.

I do have glass time (CSIP here) but i am also trying to fam. myselft with CRJ stuff through a friend that took the course in UND.

Thanks..

1/23 was the date..

See you in indoc at IND.

Nah, 2 weeks ago from a post you made on here. And I will not sit here and listen to you bad mouth my new city.

Hotel restaurant got rid of our discount...I refuse to pay full price there and no other good food around.