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Old 02-01-2008 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by SD3Dog
I just got a 145 class. What does this mean. Would I end up like the CRJ guy on the bottom of the list forever?
No, I was just screwing with the 145 guys. If you don't have base preference take the 145, get to know it upgrade time is running about a year if you'll have 2500 hours by then. There is usually a little wiggle room if you are not locked into a class date. I got the 170 once I found out there was another class and I met the (at the time, 1500 hours). No base preference take the quick one.

Honestly I think its the CRJ's that are on the plank. Welcome to RAH
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Old 02-01-2008 | 10:08 AM
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realistically I would say you are looking at three years at least at this point for a n upgrade.... and then if you take the first thing available. You will be offered a specific cert if you are offered a position. CHQ flys the 145 and its variants... RW and S5 both fly ONLY the 170/175. You wont find out which base you will get ( based on senority ) until sometime during sim training....5ish weeks after training starts. 90 minute callout for reserve. Good luck.
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Old 02-01-2008 | 10:14 AM
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Long and short, you won't sit reserve at Republic in PHL or DC, you'll hold a line fairly soon I think anywhere except Denver. There are always upgrades ahead of you. If you take the crj you'll get $2500 I believe since you have crj time. Upgrade is about a year and 10 months on the 170, a year and 2 on the 145. Will it fluctuate, sure but Bedford's wife is pregnant again so from what I hear that means another code share. As mesa crumbles that should mean more flying for us and the others... Airways likes US so i don't think we are going anywhere for a while with them, if they survive. Come here is my suggestion but you have to do what is right for you.

Originally Posted by saxman66
I'm seriously thinking about making the jump over to you guys. I just got my app in. I'm coming for the better upgrade time almost strictly. Its probably going to be 4 or 5 more years at my carrier, and really not sure if I want to be an FO for all that time. I'm on the CRJ now. But I guess the CRJ is not the one to get at CHQ. I'd like the 170, and looks like you are saying the RW is the place to go for that. Is that because of more movement? What's reserve like in places like DCA, PHL or PIT? I really have no idea what base I want. Something commutable, like ORD or PHL. I'll even take LGA on the 145.

So....is it still a good place to upgrade? I saw maybe upgrade may go up to 2 or 3 years vs. a little over 1 now, due to all the new hires to get upgraded ahead of me.

Would they offer me a 170 slot seeing how I have 121 time already, or is it random?

And how is reserve life? 90 min or 2 hour call out? Are there any other times for a longer call out? I suppose it depends on where you are based.
And I'm all about going where there is the most movement, taking a quick upgrade to make up for my 1 year given up at my current airline.
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Old 02-01-2008 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by HercDriver130
I would say you are looking at three years at least at this point for a n upgrade....
What do you know that the entire rest of the flight line doesn't? Are we loosing a code share? We have 2000 on the list now, hiring 60 a month for growth and attrition. I don't think its ever taken 3 years to upgrade here.
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Old 02-01-2008 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by STILL GROUNDED
What do you know that the entire rest of the flight line doesn't? Are we loosing a code share? We have 2000 on the list now, hiring 60 a month for growth and attrition. I don't think its ever taken 3 years to upgrade here.

i dont think they ever hired 800 pilots in a year here either!
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Old 02-01-2008 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by STILL GROUNDED
Honestly I think its the CRJ's that are on the plank. Welcome to RAH
There is no "thinking" involved; BB has said repeatedly that the CRJs will be gone when there leases are up (within the next 12 months they start to expire)
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Old 02-01-2008 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ScaryKite
i dont think they ever hired 800 pilots in a year here either!
Not saying I am the know all around here, certainly not. I've just never flown with a captain in the past 8 months that has taken that long to upgrade unless they delayed it themselves for QOL issues. All of the check airman tell me to expect it sooner than later and nothing indicates a downturn of our flying. Just curious what the other person was talking about when mentioning a 3 year upgrade. I know 10 people alone that are moving on this month to other companies.

Anyhow, not interested in an inter-office ****ing match, certainly not a fan of the kool aid myself just try to deliver what I know to be good information to those interested in coming here. Could I be wrong, we all could be.
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Old 02-01-2008 | 01:20 PM
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gee dude....dont take it personally.... FIRST if a decent upgrade is possible sooner.. grab it.... and remember you are talking about upgrades NOW. It could be less than three it could be more. I said three years to be on the long side. And yes we are hiring like mad. I flew for AE in 92-94... and they were hiring 90 per month..... my class had 90 in it. it was the LAST class for several years. SO... you just never know. I hope WE ALL can upgrade when and where we want..... but thats probably just a bit optimistic. Good luck to all.
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Old 02-01-2008 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by STILL GROUNDED
Not saying I am the know all around here, certainly not. I've just never flown with a captain in the past 8 months that has taken that long to upgrade unless they delayed it themselves for QOL issues. All of the check airman tell me to expect it sooner than later and nothing indicates a downturn of our flying. Just curious what the other person was talking about when mentioning a 3 year upgrade. I know 10 people alone that are moving on this month to other companies.

Anyhow, not interested in an inter-office ****ing match, certainly not a fan of the kool aid myself just try to deliver what I know to be good information to those interested in coming here. Could I be wrong, we all could be.

ok lets do some simple math! there are 2300 pilots on the list now. That would put the average, (hence not most junior captain) junior captains in the 1200-1300 range! So 2300-1300=1000 pilots. lets go high on the attrition and say 30 a month! 1000 pilots divided by 30 a month equals 33.4 months! Now take 33.4 months and divide it by 12 months in a year! and bingo 2.7777777repeating years!
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Old 02-01-2008 | 01:48 PM
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How many A/C are they adding this year? Each aircraft will add 4-5 upgrades a piece.

Regardless, there are worse places to sit in the right seat for a couple years.
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