Raise your hand if you think this isn't going to work ^

 

I think I can speak for all the Mesaba guys and gals when I say Good luck! We're all pulling for you!

 

I could see 9E operating 900's for NW, but it will come at the price of many of the 200s. I think you will see 9E's number of 200s be cut in half. 18 900s are still up for grabs which would allow NWA to significantly cut the 200s and still meet the min number of aircraft in the IPO.

 

I agree...but i think your going to see all the 900's go to Mesaba and the additional orders if they do decide to do those...which I believe they will...will probably go to Pinnacle if this issue is resolved by then. But I think since NW sees Pinnacle trying to distance themselves...i.e. buying Colgan and flying for Delta...your going to see NW pulling planes from 9E and giving them to there two whole owned regionals.

If you check the FAA website on N number registration Mesaba has paid the registration fees for all 36 of the 900's...

 

You realize that you aren't asking to "be realeased" or "to walk" right? You guys are asking for a proffer of arbitration, you're basically asking the NMB to offer to arbitrate any remaining issues. The NMB may not issue a proffer of arbitration and keep both sides in mediation.

If they do offer arbitration either side can deny it. If this happens you go to a 30 day cooling off period and then you and the company are released to self help [strike for you & the company can deviate from the status quo (basically do whatever it wants to you within FAA regs.)]

If the union and company both accept the "proffer of arbitration" then whatever the arbitrator decides is LEGALY BINDING for the length of the contract.

So the questions are:

Will the NMB mediator(s) issue a proffer of arbitration? Or will they try to continue with mediated negotiations? The company does not want to be offered arbitration because they know the union may turn it down - then the ball is in your court.

Will the company accept arbitration if it's offered?

Will the union accept arbitration if it's offered? Or are they just asking for this so they can decline it and get the ball rolling on a strike? (I assume this is what's going on)

The NMB sets no time table to consider requests like this so I'm not even sure how long it will take for the mediator issue a proffer or decide not to.

Hopefully that clarified some stuff. Good luck!

 

if they give us 900's then it is a 1 for 1 trade.. as in if they give us a 900 they CAN take 1 200. that doesn't mean they will do it, they just reserve the right to do it. there is no way they can cut our flying in half unless we REALLY get big on the delta side.



cant be done, if you read the asa you will see that they cant. we have a 10 year deal with them and the only way out of it is mutual agreement or bankruptcy, and we wont see either of those happen again for a while.

 

There is also always the possibility of DAL/NWA merger in the long-run as well. That would definitely toss things up with the 900 flying across the board.

 

hum...and now Pinnacle is suing the Union.....its going to get really really nasty.

 

Im excited to see a pilot group standing up for what it deserves. enough is enough...

 

Fat chance on the NMB releasing you. However you have my support as well. Each carrier that raises the bar helps us all out.

I'm all for writing every little thing up, taxing slow, maybe a "logolight campaign".