We should adjust our thoughts and expressions towards our airline for your issues?

How about folks speak their minds openly, without reservations, or threats? If you're not stable or confident enough to read those types of posts, maybe you shouldn't be operating heavy equipment?

 

Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Now that's funny! LOL!

Animosity............"riding cost tails"...............LOL!

You guys think you understand but you actually have no idea about what really matters in life. You point your hypocritical finger and bash us for working our system as you sit on your ALPA thrown. LOL!

Just curious, do you guys fly around bashes other pilots while you give yourself high fives and slaps on the backs? Is that SOP for your pilot group or is it SOP for ALPA members. If so then next time I’ll vote NO and continue to deal with our internal puppet (SAPA).

BTW, I show humility everyday when I hold my little girl and realize that all I do is for her and I'm terrified of what I can't control because of just how small we all are. Go ahead and spin it but I want to make as much money and have as much time off as I can finagle so that I can better her life. That's wants truly important.

 

Nobody says it better than JetJock...

And for me? Well I'm in Bozeman, MT and I'm about ready to have a great overnight...it's Snowing and I'm going to go enjoy life...forget APC and you anti-SkyWest mongrels for the day

 

You are right. You should receive the respect you guys deserve. I was just calling it how I see it. The fact is there is a lot of animosity towards Skywest pilots whether you agree or not. I apologize if I bashed or made it sound like I was bashing Skywest. I have a lot of friends there and I hear their frustrations. I've come from a non union place and now work in a union place now and I just wished my friends benefited from some of the things I have now.

You area right as well. I was just trying to explain why some people were posting some of the stuff they are posting. I wasn't trying to say that anybody needs to adjust their thoughts or minds.

The animosity part is true as you read it everyday on here. Riding coat tails is also true unfortunately. I can repost the part of the SEC report again where Skywest management admits to it if you want.

Also unfortunately, we do have our share of pilot bashers. I don't think that is something that just happens at XJT or with ALPA members. Every group has it small percentage.

Trust me, I understand what you are saying. My job is like number 5 or 6 on my list of priorities. I work the system as well (from my ALPA thrown). I have two little ones as well and am very glad that I have the protections of my contract that allows me to spend the time with them as well.

My frustrations is that Skywest is so successfully that you guys could be thee best, undisputedly, hands down, no doubt about it, best airline to work for. And in turn, help out your fellow pilots that work for airlines that do not have it as good.

 

Nevets, what's wrong with being "arguably" the best

 

hehe...nothing I guess if you want to settle for that.

 

At no point did I deny the "animosity" or the "riding of coat tails," I just think it's hilarious that you all truly believe we don't realize the obvious. That we are so blind sided by Jerry and friends that we'd gladly forfeit all human rights to have the chance to be employed by them. Don't be so naive!


We are "arguably" the best and even if we were "undisputedly, hands down, no doubt about it, the best airline" someone would argue otherwise.

BTW, add our bonuses and the fact that we don’t have to pay 1.95% in dues, to our CR2/7/9 rates and we’re ASA plus 4-10% (based upon what year you're in, what seat you hold and we have the w2's to prove it). Argue if you will but I voted yes for ALPA for other reasons than pay but the numbers speak for themselves and if you want to argue about just pay then there you have it.

SKW isn't perfect but their better than 97+% of the industry and their "arguably" the best. Call it "settling," call it what you will but that's why SKW's "arguably the best."

 

so what are the new pay rates at skywest supposed to be?

 

Sorry, I misunderstood your post. But at least some of the 65% don't realize it.

You are right that its not all about pay. Of course someone will always argue a point. But right now many people can make a reasonable case that XJT or Horizon has better pay and work rules. What I'm saying is that no one would be able to make a reasonable argument if Skywest pilots had true bargaining leverage, as you know.

No place is perfect but I do think its settling. And that is okay, I guess, if that is how you feel. But I personally wouldn't argue Skywest is the best and that is my only point.

By the way, union dues are 100% tax deductible. So the effective dues rate is a lot lower for many people.

 

I really don't care if you think we should have true bargaining leverage. That's our call, and we made it. Sorry to disappoint ya'll LoL