Wow, that doesn't sound like a terriffic deal at all. no pay for training, you hve to pay for your own hotel....i don't wanna be negative..but wow..that just sucks.

Bottom feeder airline creating bottom feeder program. Just pay your people more.

Chuck himself called me a couple weeks ago- "we are lookin' for Q400 FOs!" I asked him, why would I leave my 50 seat job to fly a 74 seat aircraft for less?

He had no answer to that one.

I said "if you think about increasing your payscale, I would consider it".

He said, "well we have have an in-house pilot group that is addressing those issues."

I said, "why do you even need that? give your people a raise"

He wished me good luck in my career. Real genuine.

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Thats funny, I had a guy in my class who got a 79%, yes a 79% on the systems test, he needed an 80%, guess what happened to him?????????????? Out the door in less then an hour from when we got our results, real class-act they are.


Might of needed a 70%, and got a 69%, whatever it was he missed by one and they showed him no sympathy...............

I think we had either two or three guys (can't remember which it was) that failed the systems test in our class. They all got some additional training and retook the test, and passed on the second attempt. (One of them ended up failing out of training, but not for lack of attempts to bring him up to speed - several guys got lots of extra sim sessions to help them along.)

All in all I'd say I was pretty happy with the way my training was conducted. Just offering a counterpoint....

What?!!! That's CRAZY! Actually failing someone for failing. What would the FAA think? They let things like that slide all the time!:rolleyes:

Also, N2 rotation, who do you work for, and how did Colgan have your number?

I agree, just telling him that Colgan doesn't go out of there way to help anybody, if they do it is for there own benefit, like these new hires on the Q, how mmany extra sim sessions is it going to take, At this point Colgan doesn't care, becuase they don't have anyone else, they can not get anyone with less experience..............

Okay, I want to be sure I got this right:

Colgan sucks because they fired a guy who failed systems by 1 point.
Colgan sucks because they let a guy have extra sim time so he could pass.

Seems Colgan is danged if they do and danged if they don't.

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I think its more the fact that they canned the other guy becuase (as was told by our instructors) he would of required a whole other sim, we had an odd number in our class, so the instructors "alrighty " <--- some of you may get the reference, felt that they probably did it becuase if he could not get through the systems they would be wasting a whole lot of money for another sim, for basically one guy. I think the point is they do whats right for them, they don't do charity and if someone thinks they are helping people getting through becuase they are "looking out for their employees" they are kidding themselves, they don't have anyone else, that already are scraping the bottom of the barrel, hence this new BS program they developed....................( you don't see Air Wisconsin, Chautauqua, Expressjet, Comair, SkyWest, Mesaba doing this do you?



Colgan sucks for a lot of reasons, and I am actually getting tired of telling people why Colgan is not a good airline, and why it sucks, it just does.................Quick upgrade Quick upgrade, thats all I hear out of you people, I swear what makes you guys different from Gulfstream guys, "Getting 121 experience, getting 121 experience" Is it worth it, yeah I suffer now, but hey once I get my 1,000PIC Turbine I am out the door, on my way to FedEx, CAL, DELTA, UPS.................wake up Peter Pan, this isn't a fairy tail, it is real and by pilots working for sub-standard pay and work rules you are sending a very clear message to management, "Hey Chuck I'll prostitute myself out for 40k a year as a Q CA, hell I'll be at CAL by this time next year..............

Why don't you join the PINNACLE PILOTS amongst others that will be in EWR on FEB 4 protesting the Q's and managements BS that is coming along with it.\



This will be my last and final comment about COLGAN................................

I highly doubt that

they do pay you and pay for your hotel in training. But the development program isn't part of the training ciriculum