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dn_wisconsin 01-30-2008 10:24 AM

Pinnacle Upgrade
 
APC says July 2007, I've heard it is in the 1-2 month range if you have the time.

BornToFly 01-30-2008 11:11 AM

A guy in my class went to upgrade class a couple weeks after initial checkride. He didn't even have the 100hrs in pinnacle aircraft.

dbo861 01-30-2008 11:47 AM

What is the upgrade hour requirement at Pinnacle?

BornToFly 01-30-2008 12:14 PM

Checck out the profile page, there are a few different requirements...More total time, less company. Less total time, more with the company.

DANCRJ 01-30-2008 04:35 PM

You need at least 100 hrs in PNCL, but if you never flew the CRJ don't expect to upgrade in less than 6 months. The People that upgrade that quick is because they have CRJ time like all the guys we are getting from COMAIR. 3500TT is the minimum which I think 2000 turbine you have to have at least.

wolf 01-30-2008 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by DANCRJ (Post 310741)
You need at least 100 hrs in PNCL, but if you never flew the CRJ don't expect to upgrade in less than 6 months. The People that upgrade that quick is because they have CRJ time like all the guys we are getting from COMAIR. 3500TT is the minimum which I think 2000 turbine you have to have at least.

Not true. As mentioned before, the absolute mins are 2000TT w/1500 PNCL time w/ 100 hours in the "mentor" program (flying with a "mentor" CA). After that the minimums go up to the 2500-3500 range depending on your TT and time on type/PNCL time.

The upgrade is still quick although there is now a minimum of 100 hours on PNCL A/C prior to upgrade regardless of TT.

However, be careful about coming to PNCL before we get a contract. With everything that's going on now, it's a game of russian roulette...

nicholasblonde 01-31-2008 12:51 PM

Last time I checked it was 1800 TT/1300 with the co....has that changed???

ShyGuy 01-31-2008 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by nicholasblonde (Post 311392)
Last time I checked it was 1800 TT/1300 with the co....has that changed???

1800TT is required to 'enter' the pilot mentor program. So, you must have 1800TT to start the mentor program.

Then, you need to do at least 100 hrs with a Captain mentor.

Then, once you get 2000 TT (and 1500 of that at Pinnacle), you can upgrade.

Paok 01-31-2008 06:16 PM

My friend jsut met a girl from comair who went to PNCL for the short upgrade and didnt last 3 months bc of the horrible working conditions.......

ShyGuy 11-09-2011 08:53 AM


Pinnacle Upgrade

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APC says July 2007, I've heard it is in the 1-2 month range if you have the time.
How times change! I love this thread. Right now a July 2007 DOH is still a FO. March 2007 FOs got upgraded and then downgraded after the SLI and parking of the Saabs. Good stuff, eh?

Boomer 11-09-2011 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1082355)
How times change! I love this thread. Right now a July 2007 DOH is still a FO. March 2007 FOs got upgraded and then downgraded after the SLI and parking of the Saabs. Good stuff, eh?

It's the Circle Of Life.

SLIbandit 11-09-2011 10:58 AM

9E upgrade times are really low if you come from 9L....

Luv2Rotate 11-09-2011 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by SLIbandit (Post 1082434)
9E upgrade times are really low if you come from 9L....

While somewhat funny, don't stir ShyGuy's pot. :rolleyes:

Jamers 11-09-2011 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate (Post 1082451)
While somewhat funny, don't stir ShyGuy's pot. :rolleyes:

Seriously, we just got that guy calmed down.

ShyGuy 11-09-2011 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by SLIbandit (Post 1082434)
9E upgrade times are really low if you come from 9L....

Only for those with super seniority! Aka, all the Colgan guys hired on/and prior to Feb 2008. A majority (if not all) RJ Captains awards at Colgan are current Captains at Colgan. No upgrade for Colgan FO into jet. As for the rest, they are not touching any RJ left seats for a loooooooooong time.

And, I've calmed down a bit after taking in the one condition that SPECIFICALLY states:

If there are insufficient bidders for one pre-merger pilot
group for a posted vacancy on one side of the fence during
the five-year period, unfilled vacancies may be filled by pilots
from the other pre-merger airline[s] in seniority order.

The Saab is a 5 year fence. Colgan is already down to a May 2010 DOH for a Saab Captain. Won't be long until it hits June 30, 2010 DOHs. Once that's done, all pre-merger Colgan pilots will have bid (or not bid) for Saab Captain. At that point, this provision will kick in, and before ANY post-merger Colgan pilot (hired after June 2010) is awarded Saab Captain, all the pre-merger Pinnacle and Colgan pilots will be awarded the position.

The biggest reason I've calmed down is that I'm devoting all my time and energy on trying to get outta 9E. Applications take time, researching for open positions, etc. It's actually a healthier alternative.

Luv2Rotate 11-09-2011 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1082558)
Only for those with super seniority! Aka, all the Colgan guys hired on/and prior to Feb 2008. A majority (if not all) RJ Captains awards at Colgan are current Captains at Colgan. No upgrade for Colgan FO into jet. As for the rest, they are not touching any RJ left seats for a loooooooooong time.

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I wouldnt say loooooooooong. 65 is almost upon us and we'll see 3-4yr FO's upgrading into your CRJs, I promise. ;)

Airsupport 11-09-2011 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate (Post 1082561)
I wouldnt say loooooooooong. 65 is almost upon us and we'll see 3-4yr FO's upgrading into your CRJs, I promise. ;)

bring em on in. perma reserve is the bees knees!

Fly782 11-09-2011 03:31 PM

Better hope ALPA nationals support of the age 70 rule doesnt go through...

SLIbandit 11-09-2011 04:37 PM

For those drooling over jumping the fence into the SAAB left seat, I have one thing to say: enjoy DRT, AOO & CKB....

ShyGuy 11-09-2011 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate (Post 1082561)
I wouldnt say loooooooooong. 65 is almost upon us and we'll see 3-4yr FO's upgrading into your CRJs, I promise. ;)

There are only 12 Colgan FOs that made it in the super seniority range (seniority in and under 1400s). All your other FOs are #2200+ and will not be upgrading into the RJs anytime soon, I promise. All pre-merger Pinnacle and Mesaba FOs in the 1500-2100 range will get to upgrade first into the RJs.

ShyGuy 11-09-2011 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by SLIbandit (Post 1082595)
For those drooling over jumping the fence into the SAAB left seat, I have one thing to say: enjoy DRT, AOO & CKB....

As opposed to PLN, AZO, and CKB? Because that's what I just recently did in the RJ from the right seat at 5th year pay.
I'll take DRT, AOO, and CKB in the left seat of a Saab any day.

Saabs 11-09-2011 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by SLIbandit (Post 1082595)
For those drooling over jumping the fence into the SAAB left seat, I have one thing to say: enjoy DRT, AOO & CKB....

I love all of those overnights

Laxrox43 11-10-2011 12:45 AM

I can't personally speak for DRT, but AOO and CKB are/were great overnights! You have to know all of the great little hole-in-the-wall type places to hang out at. (ie. JC Maxey's, El Rincon, and Brick House in CKB, and Dunderbach's, Olive Garden, and Hooters in AOO. Plus Hooters in AOO sells 6'ers!) If you are socially inept, I could see AOO and CKB overnights being a nightmare. However, if you aren't the "hermit" type and you're with the right crew, these places can be loads of fun!

Just my .02 cents...
Laxrox43

SLIbandit 11-10-2011 01:18 AM

Don't forget the bedbugs and 30+ minute nasty cab rides. Party on boys!!!

Laxrox43 11-10-2011 03:22 AM

Gee you sound like the tool that cried "bed bugs" just to change hotels. Your initials wouldn't happen to be C.R. would they? Hired in August '09, fired shortly thereafter? We are all tired of your lies, and glad that you got canned for being a moron!

flyingreasemnky 11-10-2011 03:36 AM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1082644)
As opposed to PLN, AZO, and CKB? Because that's what I just recently did in the RJ from the right seat at 5th year pay.
I'll take DRT, AOO, and CKB in the left seat of a Saab any day.

How can you complain about AZO? That would be a great overnight, spent four years there in college. Great party school.

plasticpi 11-10-2011 03:41 AM


Originally Posted by SLIbandit (Post 1082758)
Don't forget the bedbugs and 30+ minute nasty cab rides. Party on boys!!!

Sorry the Bentley was in the shop, princess.

You're not on vacation, you're at work. Who cares what takes you to the hotel?

(I'll make an exception for the old GRK cab driver that almost certainly had to go door to door in his neighborhood and introduce himself by law. That and he once was late picking us up in the morning, which I can deal with, but he felt that the correct thing to do was drive 120 mph in his hot-rod cab. What was his name anyway, Ernie? Eli? Someone help me out here...)

jdalbrec 11-10-2011 03:44 AM


Originally Posted by Laxrox43 (Post 1082768)
Gee you sound like the tool that cried "bed bugs" just to change hotels. Your initials wouldn't happen to be C.R. would they? Hired in August '09, fired shortly thereafter? We are all tired of your lies, and glad that you got canned for being a moron!

+1. I think CR is working at GoJet now...

dingo222 11-10-2011 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by jdalbrec (Post 1082779)
+1. I think CR is working at GoJet now...

he is. fitting

jdalbrec 11-10-2011 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by dingo222 (Post 1082815)
he is. fitting

deleted........

SLIbandit 11-10-2011 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by Laxrox43 (Post 1082768)
Gee you sound like the tool that cried "bed bugs" just to change hotels. Your initials wouldn't happen to be C.R. would they? Hired in August '09, fired shortly thereafter? We are all tired of your lies, and glad that you got canned for being a moron!

Nope, not me. You know what they say about "assume".....

SLIbandit 11-10-2011 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by plasticpi (Post 1082776)
Sorry the Bentley was in the shop, princess.

You're not on vacation, you're at work. Who cares what takes you to the hotel?

(I'll make an exception for the old GRK cab driver that almost certainly had to go door to door in his neighborhood and introduce himself by law. That and he once was late picking us up in the morning, which I can deal with, but he felt that the correct thing to do was drive 120 mph in his hot-rod cab. What was his name anyway, Ernie? Eli? Someone help me out here...)

Easy with the name calling, and, obviously you haven't taken the AOO cab.

etflies 11-10-2011 08:13 AM

The AOO cab ride was better than any energy drink or coffee I've ever seen at waking you up for the early winter shows. Suddenly the redneck runs didn't seem so bad having survived that death race.

SLIbandit 11-10-2011 08:14 AM

I find all the rants about GoJet amusing. No, I don't work there. There are VERY few on this board that actually know what went down in STL back in 2003/2004.

The lesson there in a nutshell: Don't let your union committees have too much free reign. Kinda like the 9E NC for the SLI

Saabs 11-10-2011 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by SLIbandit (Post 1082932)
I find all the rants about GoJet amusing. No, I don't work there. There are VERY few on this board that actually know what went down in STL back in 2003/2004.

The lesson there in a nutshell: Don't let your union committees have too much free reign. Kinda like the 9E NC for the SLI

As a CJC guy I ain't defending u when a XJ or 9E attacks u

IBPilot 11-10-2011 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by SLIbandit (Post 1082932)
I find all the rants about GoJet amusing. No, I don't work there. There are VERY few on this board that actually know what went down in STL back in 2003/2004.

I was there. Would you like to explain it to me and the rest of the majority that don't know what went down?

SLIbandit 11-10-2011 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by Saabs (Post 1082941)
As a CJC guy I ain't defending u when a XJ or 9E attacks u

I don't really require any defense, thank you. It's saddening to read all the rants / hateful words that are spewed forth here.

captain152 11-10-2011 09:00 AM

It's the standard "5% of the people cause 95% of the problems".

Don't let the actions/inactions/words of a select few form the reputation for a group as a whole.

Cheers mates!

IBPilot 11-10-2011 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by IBPilot (Post 1082945)
I was there. Would you like to explain it to me and the rest of the majority that don't know what went down?

waiting....or do you really not know the answer but like to sound like a knowitall for the newbies?:confused:

Al Czervik 11-11-2011 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by IBPilot (Post 1083086)
waiting....or do you really not know the answer but like to sound like a knowitall for the newbies?:confused:

I thought sli was a new guy.


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