Absolutely - we at SkyWest know nothing of work-rules ...Why must all ya'll on APC be righteous in all things ALPA/SkyWest - telling us that what we have is not worthy of our talent etc...? I already have one set of parents - I don't need an extended-nuclear family on APC!

 

The problem is XE pilots fly 37 and 50 seaters. SkyWest pilots fly up to 70 seaters, and are getting paid the same. All while SkyWest makes a pretty penny off the backs of their pilots. Face it, you deserve better, and you won't get it without ALPA.

 

Sorry experimental. Was just trying to give yall some support.

 

I am not badmouthing you or your pilot group I am saying you deserve more for what you do and you are being taken advantage of. You may ask, why do i care? Well when you fly 70 seaters for what i used to make flying a 37 and 50 seat jet at XJT you give other mgmts reason to say that the XJT pilots are overpaid because you do it for less. You should be and deserve to be the highest paid pilots in the regional sector. IF you get 100 seat aircraft would you ask for more pay? how much more? 2-5-10% more where does it stop? I never said ANYTHING about TALENT do you have a complex?

All in healthy discussion buddy dont get bent out of shape.

 

Stating opinions as facts is not helpful to your cause, Tex.

Horizon has a $121 pay rate, a full 15% higher than Skywest's top rate of $105. Republic has a pay rate of $119, over 13% higher than Skywest's. And the most junior CA flying for ExpressJet's Charter operation pulls in a minimum guarantee of $104,760, a full $10,260, or over 9% higher minimum guarantee than the most senior pilot for Skywest.

It is a fact that Skywest has the 3rd highest hourly pay rate for a FAR 121 airline aircraft that seats less than 90 passengers in the US. Beyond that, it's hard to tell where the facts end and the opinion begins.

And the great 'satan', Mesa? Their supposedly horrible contract, the one signed 5 years ago that gave away the farm to capture all of their flying . . . it pays a mere $94,600 a year minimum guarantee to a 20 year CA, $100 more than the minimum guarantee for Skywest's highest pay level.

Those are facts.

 

Not to mention the XJT rates are ONLY for 37/50 seat jets not 70 seaters.

 

I was quoting the scale for 50 seaters.

 

True, but the Republic rate is for E-175's, which are larger than anything Skywest flies.

The real judge of an airline, in my opinion, is the work rules and QOL. It's hard to gauge what 'the best' is in this area. If you live in Salt Lake, Skywest will likely be a better choice than any airline but Delta, and even that is debatable (if NWA and DL merge, what happens, plus SLC is not a junior base for DL, so you'd have to commute to the job for a bit - the lack of commute being the the whole reason you'd choose DL, likely) - in short, if you're living comfortably, then why leave?

Considering what others are getting and the apparent shortage of pilots @ the regional new-hire level, I would think Skywest could have done better for their junior ranks, and the EMB guys. Would they have done better if they were ALPA or union at all? That is impossible to know, but we all can speculate.

 

Well, it a rarity that an individual will stay at a regional for 20 years, so the upper end of the pay scale is irrelevant. The focus is on year 1- 5, which is the average stay for an individual at a regional (well, unless you are at Eagle).

 

I agree. Why does Skywest (or any regional) have pay rates beyond year 12 then? Take all the excesses that go to the guys with over 12 years and concentrate in in the first 10 years, especially year 1 and the EMB guys. If the legacy airlines, where you certainly will spend more than 12 years, only have rates up to 12, then why does any airline that is, for the most part, not a career airline, have 20 year rates?