1st year PC's
02-11-2008 | 07:19 AM
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I had an FAA guy show up for a type ride last year. It did make the ride more stressful, but it was self induced. Overall, it went well, and I passed. During the debrief, the evaluator critiqued the type ride for about 5-10 minutes.
Then the FAA inspector and I discussed general airline and safety topics for about 30 minutes. I learned a lot from this informative discussion. The FAA inspector was friendly, helpful, and professional.
Then the FAA inspector and I discussed general airline and safety topics for about 30 minutes. I learned a lot from this informative discussion. The FAA inspector was friendly, helpful, and professional.
02-11-2008 | 08:21 AM
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I have yet to meet an FAA employee that could be considered a fair and decent human...
02-11-2008 | 11:50 AM
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From: Spartan
I just had my first year PC, and well, it didn't go so well. My captain was from the standards dept, and my instructor was being observed by a manager from the training department. So needless to say, I was pretty nervous. If I screwed something up, I had 3 guys yelling at me.
I came back two days later, retrained, and finished my re-check in about 30 mins. with a new captain and a new sim instructor.
I was humiliated, as I never failed a check-ride in my life. It is quite a feeling to be pulled off-line and off payroll. You feel like a horrible pilot. I know I would have passed had I not had the three training dept. guys in there with me (a probationary FO). Was this legal? Oh well, I really hope this doesn't come back to haunt me.
I came back two days later, retrained, and finished my re-check in about 30 mins. with a new captain and a new sim instructor.
I was humiliated, as I never failed a check-ride in my life. It is quite a feeling to be pulled off-line and off payroll. You feel like a horrible pilot. I know I would have passed had I not had the three training dept. guys in there with me (a probationary FO). Was this legal? Oh well, I really hope this doesn't come back to haunt me.
02-11-2008 | 11:52 AM
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From: Spartan
I had an FAA guy show up for a type ride last year. It did make the ride more stressful, but it was self induced. Overall, it went well, and I passed. During the debrief, the evaluator critiqued the type ride for about 5-10 minutes.
Then the FAA inspector and I discussed general airline and safety topics for about 30 minutes. I learned a lot from this informative discussion. The FAA inspector was friendly, helpful, and professional.
Then the FAA inspector and I discussed general airline and safety topics for about 30 minutes. I learned a lot from this informative discussion. The FAA inspector was friendly, helpful, and professional.
02-11-2008 | 12:35 PM
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I can see how the low time guys could have problems after a year if they never had a chance to get the fundamentals down before they went to an airline. Maybe they squeaked through the initial but hand flying instrument skills and flying fundamentals were never that great - say they got by with help from captains and automation for the first year and it might bite them during the probationary PC. And as said above this is a good time for the company to weed out people they don't like.
02-11-2008 | 01:06 PM
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I can see how the low time guys could have problems after a year if they never had a chance to get the fundamentals down before they went to an airline. Maybe they squeaked through the initial but hand flying instrument skills and flying fundamentals were never that great - say they got by with help from captains and automation for the first year and it might bite them during the probationary PC. And as said above this is a good time for the company to weed out people they don't like.
Like I said - there are pepple who fly planes, and then there are Pilots.
02-11-2008 | 01:14 PM
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02-11-2008 | 01:46 PM
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There is more to it than flying approaches in the sim. Even a monkey can do it. Its just lack of experience,judgment,and skills that these low timers suffer the most.
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