1st year PC's
02-10-2008 | 10:42 AM
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1st year PC's
Hey guys, don't know how many remember my last post about the rough PC but I got by the re-check yesterday and everything is good. I did hear from a few friends in my class however that were not so lucky. One of them is on her last chance before losing the job (after being online 1 year!). It seems like lately there have been a large number of FO's failing their first year PC's. When people ask me what they should do I never have an answer. Its my understanding that if you lose your job at a regional because you couldn't pass the checkride, its pretty much impossible to continue a career in the airlines. After all, what airline would want to take someone who either A) Couldn't get through 121 initial training or B) Couldn't pass a PC after a full year on the line? Am I right here?
02-10-2008 | 11:33 AM
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If a great number of pilots are not passing check rides there is a problem in the training department or the company is getting rid of "troublemakers." This kind of BS seems much more prevalent in the smaller airlines. It is one of the many reasons you want to work for a major.
02-11-2008 | 04:50 AM
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We have had a few recently getting busted on their PC's. I dunno I was not there but if you prepare, act professionally and fly by the Book, you shouldn't have any problems, if there is a serious issue, and you feel you were treated unfairly, go immediately to Pro-Stans....
I was sickly nervous for my recurrent PC, knew the basics of the systems, knew the Limitations & Memory Items cold and flew fairly well, the instructor I had was the guy I had for my initial, he remembered me so that was good, but it went well and was a lot of fun, but if I wasn't prepared I could see this guys busting me. Sometimes I think we forget that even though the pay blows and the pax don't respect us, we have a pretty big responsibility and if we make a big enough mistake........well you get the point
I was sickly nervous for my recurrent PC, knew the basics of the systems, knew the Limitations & Memory Items cold and flew fairly well, the instructor I had was the guy I had for my initial, he remembered me so that was good, but it went well and was a lot of fun, but if I wasn't prepared I could see this guys busting me. Sometimes I think we forget that even though the pay blows and the pax don't respect us, we have a pretty big responsibility and if we make a big enough mistake........well you get the point
02-11-2008 | 05:36 AM
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I just had my first year PC, and well, it didn't go so well. My captain was from the standards dept, and my instructor was being observed by a manager from the training department. So needless to say, I was pretty nervous. If I screwed something up, I had 3 guys yelling at me.
I came back two days later, retrained, and finished my re-check in about 30 mins. with a new captain and a new sim instructor.
I was humiliated, as I never failed a check-ride in my life. It is quite a feeling to be pulled off-line and off payroll. You feel like a horrible pilot. I know I would have passed had I not had the three training dept. guys in there with me (a probationary FO). Was this legal? Oh well, I really hope this doesn't come back to haunt me.
I came back two days later, retrained, and finished my re-check in about 30 mins. with a new captain and a new sim instructor.
I was humiliated, as I never failed a check-ride in my life. It is quite a feeling to be pulled off-line and off payroll. You feel like a horrible pilot. I know I would have passed had I not had the three training dept. guys in there with me (a probationary FO). Was this legal? Oh well, I really hope this doesn't come back to haunt me.
02-11-2008 | 05:42 AM
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I just had my first year PC, and well, it didn't go so well. My captain was from the standards dept, and my instructor was being observed by a manager from the training department. So needless to say, I was pretty nervous. If I screwed something up, I had 3 guys yelling at me.
I came back two days later, retrained, and finished my re-check in about 30 mins. with a new captain and a new sim instructor.
I was humiliated, as I never failed a check-ride in my life. It is quite a feeling to be pulled off-line and off payroll. You feel like a horrible pilot. I know I would have passed had I not had the three training dept. guys in there with me (a probationary FO). Was this legal? Oh well, I really hope this doesn't come back to haunt me.
I came back two days later, retrained, and finished my re-check in about 30 mins. with a new captain and a new sim instructor.
I was humiliated, as I never failed a check-ride in my life. It is quite a feeling to be pulled off-line and off payroll. You feel like a horrible pilot. I know I would have passed had I not had the three training dept. guys in there with me (a probationary FO). Was this legal? Oh well, I really hope this doesn't come back to haunt me.
sorry to hear it, but don't let anyone tell yuo its going to stop you from getting on with a Major, thats just ridiculous.
02-11-2008 | 07:05 AM
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i had the FAA sit in on my type ride, it wasnt bad at all he was really cool actually, ya just forget he's there and do what you do
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