Go Jets
 

I'm just curious but how do you react if you see two Go Jets Capt pilots commuting in the same airplane. They kind of seemed normal to me but knowing what they have done, how do you react?

You start a thread like this with a screen name like that...how ironic...and then you wonder!

Hey man, I've been on this forum for quite a long time so the screenname stuff is over rated. I'm siting in a freakin hotel with nothing to do and wanted to get some opinions. shoot me

What do you mean they seemed normal? Do GoJets guys look/act any different from other pilots?

:confused:

Don't you have a checkbook to balance or something to pay off your students loans from ERAU?

;)

Nice!! .... Grow up

Well, pilots commuting is normal. Considering that they were both GoJets pilots, I'd wonder as to the mental health of the Captain who gave them seats.:p

Precisely!

If you have been on this forum that long then you know how this thread was going to turn out. The most non-clairvoyant could see how it will turn out. heres the run down:
People make fun of you
You weakly defend yourself
people say gojets sucks
scabs defend gojets
people make even more fun of them
Moderator locks the thread and tells people to Google search the forum for everyones views on gojets.

but don't worry in a few weeks someone will start another thread much like this one and the vicious circle starts again.

The same way I react whenever I see a Go Jet bastard.

I'm willing to bet that around 80-90% of all GoJet guys had NO CLUE when they interviewed/started training the type of rep their company had. How many of you guys would've known about GoJet's rep if you didnt find this forum? I've come across numerous people who were thinking about applying to Mesa/GoJets etc, and had no clue about the rep their prospective airline...you can make the argument that they didnt do their research etc. I'm no GoJet advocate by any means, but they're people too (people make mistakes), and they deserved to be treated with some sort of human dignity.

The people that have repeatedly proven they have no respect for Trans States pilots? We should respect them?

Oh well sucks for them, they're not going to have a future because they didn't do their research. Honestly you have to do at least a little bit of wondering about your future company. For the orgiginal question, don't go to Gojet your not going to have any dignity, you will be treated accordingly, and worst of all CAs will kick you out of their airplane.

who takes a job somewhere without first doing the research? I have absolutely no sympathy for go jet scabs.

I have friend that called me up one day and said "hey, man I just finished IOE in the CRJ at Go jets" hahe, he had no clue as to what the history was with the company.

heck, the controversial nature of GoJets even used to be in wikipedia. How hard is that to find. Someone should add that back into wikipedia.

gojet guys/gals should get no sympathy. its all about the research, and if they are just eating up everything from those inside the company, then they get what they deserve from those on the other side of the fence/line

Who works for a company without researching them? That's just plain stupid.

GoJet sucks. Period. If you work there, you suck. Period. Being union now (what an insult to the trashtruck drivers and grocery baggers in local 618) doesn't make what you did right. Going there three years after the fact doesn't make it right either. You're whoring yourself out to Hulas, and you're screwing yourselves just as much as you're screwing my friends at TSA.

I'm not in the airline industry yet...but are GoJets guys really ostrasized as social pariahs like you guys really make it out to be? Do you know of anybody who has actually verbally said anything to these guys? Do you guys know of any actual confrontations?

I sure do!!! and they will stay between me that person :mad:

Not from me...they aren't worthy of hearing my voice. I don't acknowledge their existance unless they are trying jumpseat. In fact it is kinda fun to walk through ORD and briefly make eye contact with one...wait for them to give you the nod...you know the nod...and then look away and shake your head in disgust. Does this make me an ass...perhaps....but I'm only an ass to the asses at GoJet (and sometimes on the bus with the Skybus guys in CMH).

Those Skybus pilots are just as bad as gojets pilots...plus they look like park rangers :p

Nothing personal but this argument holds no water. If those people want to be treated like professionals, they ought to act like professionals and a professional knows what he/she is stepping into. I didn't accept my very first job at McDonald's without doing some research and or talking to people that worked there.


When I see them, I just ignore them.

Yeh, they do get picked on some, ignored more. Kinda like the kid in the corner who no-one wants to talk to, so they typically just hide away. You could almost feel sorry for the guys and try to talk to them, then you remember that they made their bed, now they can sleep in it.

Another note, this board has a decent cross-section of the airline industry down. Just about someone from every regional airline is on here somewhere. And with the exception of a few gojetters and a couple "anti-union" guys, just about everyone agrees on what these guys are....and that alone should tell you something.

100% yes to all three questions. Once you get into the industry you will quickly see what everyone is talking about.

Are they supposed to have horns and a tail?

there is a reason they hide their ID badges when they're inside the terminal.

I disagree. While I think that Skybus pilots are completely underselling our profession, they did not join an alter ego carrier.

Second that...
 

But a few of the scum jet guys did go over there....DT comes to mind... And a few others... And I can vouch for a few incidences where A. A scum jet was NOT hired, and B. A few verbal altercations and refusal of jumpseats... I was there for both... No second hand info....And it was GREAT!

most of them ride on non rev passes, or never go up and say hi in the cockpit.

I work for TSA and i was trying to commute from BDL-ORD on Mesa and told the captain that i worked for TSA, not TSA HOLDINGS and he went thru the scab list like, 10 times, asked me a bunch of questions, to make sure i wasn't working for go jets, as well before letting me on

Its nice that everyone else can deny them, except for us.

Here is a good gojet story I just saw today, my first one!

I was walking behind a pilot in the SW terminal in STL. I saw a guy with a gojet looking hat, but they look the same as Frontier's, so I waited until he got close enough to get a look at his badge. Sure enough, it was a gojetter. He nodded to the pilot who was walking in front of me, and the pilot just kept walking as if the gojet guy didn't exist. It was classic! I couldn't help but look away when I passed the gojet guy. Although I should have made it worse by looking at him with the thought, "why would you go to gojet?" I just looked away. Oh well, whenever I get my four year upgrade at SkyWest I am sure I will have plenty of opportunities to deal with these ...'s then.

Unfortunately its true. Unless we want to face some sort of discipline here, we have to let them ride...don't really have to acknowledge them, but have to let them ride.

Here's my new idea for letting them get a ride. They all try to pass themselves off as "United" pilots by using the little orange United crew tags on their rollerboards already, so in exchange for a ride they have to cut off that bag tag and give it to me since I'm actually a "real" United pilot and we haven't been able to get one of our own crew bag tags since I got hired last fall. Losers.
Funny Blow jets story though- We arrive in PVD hotel for the overnight and talking to the lady at the front desk of the hotel, I ask what other crews stay here. She goes down the list and gets to Go-Jets and I start laughing. She asks me why everyone hates them so much and calls them scabs, so I break it down simply for her to understand. Then she tells me that one time the van driver came back from picking a ho-jet crew up and when they all walked in the front door she asked what airline they were with. The van driver says "I just picked up the scabs" right in front of them because he didn't know what it meant. LMAO!! Priceless

OF COURSE YOU CAN!!! Sorry, O2 levels are two low for a 3 man cockpit crew.

As for in the back...if it is a fairly full flight (1 open seat that you don't want a Gojet ass <literally> in), you just find that seat with the borken arm rest or tray table or whatnot, write it up, and all of a sudden you only have 49 avail. seats.

Just get creative while staying within the rules!!!

Or add some fuel for safety of flight...:)

Is it bad to nonrev on them? I was thinking of using them to get me home the other day and didn't know if that was ok. I just ended up taking a later flight but what is the general feeling in a situation like that?

i was forced to DH on them while i was still at TSA. the FA and i were both in the exit row, in uniform. there was a BJ CA in one of the seats on the other side of the aisle. the rear FA had the gall to pull out the safety card and hand it to each of us and ask us like we were 12yr olds if we could open the window if we had to.

um, let me see; uniformed crew member and i've actually pulled the plug out and stepped onto the wing. yeah i think i can.

from what i've heard, that kind of attitude and treatment to crews is standard for them.

Do United guys have to allow them to non rev?

"History
The airline was established in late 2004 by the current owners of Trans States Airlines. The airline was created to undermine the efforts of the Pilots Union at Trans State Airlines. Trans States Holdings was awarded a contract to fly CRJ 700 aircraft for united. The flying should have been flown by Trans States Airline pilots, but the holding company refused to negotiate a fair contract with its workers and started GoJets as an alter ego carrier to bypass the rights of the workers at Trans States Airlines. GoJet was supposed to start on August 4, 2005, but began scheduled passenger services on October 4, 2005 instead. The airline received its initial Air Carrier Operating Certificate in September of 2005. The initial fleet consists of fifteen 66-seat Bombardier CRJ-700 regional jets."

Right out of Wikipedia.

Non-revving on a pass is a different animal than jumpseating - unless he investigated, the Captain would have no idea they were even on board...