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Originally Posted by ImperialxRat (Post 319928)

Thats about where I stopped reading, and just started going, "uh huh.... uh huh...."

Ya, I’m with you on that one. I would have used Horizon as an example instead of XJT but that's even a stretch seeing their not technically a regional even though they basically are.

Fosters you need to leave this forum right now. You are just making WAY to much since for this place. We as pilots are supposed to be irrational and only care about more hourly pay even if it brings our company down to its knees, right? ;)

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Originally Posted by fosters (Post 319940)

SkyWest pilots haven't experienced the pain and stress of having a codeshare removed and given to someone else.

It's never happened to me either, but every guy I fly with had it happen, and it sucks. It's the nature of the regional game, we know, but that doesn't change the fact that it sucks.

By being the highest paid regional pilots a pilot group could open themselves up to limited growth if not slicing their own wrists (think Comair). They had one heck of a pay scale, for which they went on strike for 89 days to get, and they ended up taking concessions and still having flying taken away.

As pilots we really are a commodity. If higher pay equated to more profit we would have a leg to stand on. All we have is a union to help us out and the last couple ALPA votes have gone no where.

The difference is that Skywest has a track record of 30+ years of success and more recently have about $700 million in the bank with an admition from the CEO that they have $150 million more than what they need to run the airline AND they just made about $160 million last year. Surely they could spare a few million to pay the pilots just a little bit more.

The fact remains that without a union recognized by the NMB, Skywest pilots will never be able to bargain for any substantial increase in pay rates, solidifying work rules, and ending at-will employment.

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Originally Posted by WAVIT Inbound (Post 320046)

Even if the company has $700 million in the bank, $150 million more than needed to run the airline, and making $160 million a year? How does that make any sense?

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Originally Posted by Nevets (Post 320085)

The fact remains that without a union recognized by the NMB, Skywest pilots will never be able to bargain for any substantial increase in pay rates, solidifying work rules, and ending at-will employment.

Um...yeah - that's what we voted on not too long ago. Remember?! If what you just said was really that important to us (it is - but there is more to life - apparently APC-goers don't know that!), we would have voted in ALPA, don't you think?

The key word here is minority, and you are preaching to it!

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Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB (Post 320091)

Maybe, but organizing started from the day after the vote.;)

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Originally Posted by Nevets (Post 320085)

Surely they could spare a few million to pay the pilots just a little bit more.

Why? Does SkyWest have a staffing shortage? What will the company get out of paying its pilots more?

In reality there really is no reason for the company to pay them more "just to be nice".

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Originally Posted by WAVIT Inbound (Post 320046)

Fosters you need to leave this forum right now. You are just making WAY to much since for this place. We as pilots are supposed to be irrational and only care about more hourly pay even if it brings our company down to its knees, right? ;)

Riddle grammar check.

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Originally Posted by Giggity (Post 320241)

Riddle grammar check.

I do understand that your posting is just a knock on him and Riddle, for that I give you two hardy chuckles but we can't start getting on to others for simple grammar issues or one or two misspelled words.

But if the centanse luks somting like thes thin thats a problm. Since and sense are simple and for the most part should be overlooked. Most on here post quickly and as their headed out the door etc. Now there are some posters who don’t proofread at all and their posts make very little sinse (lol) or contain many misspelling, those posters should be educated nicely.

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Originally Posted by fosters (Post 320141)

Why? Does SkyWest have a staffing shortage? What will the company get out of paying its pilots more?

In reality there really is no reason for the company to pay them more "just to be nice".

This is the type of mentality that doesn't help pilots. You are looking at it ONLY from management's perspective. Part of management's job is to try to keep costs low. That is fine. Somebody has to do that but pilots should be able to look out for their own good as well to reach a happy medium. The problem is that no one is on the pilots side to "argue" for a little bit bigger piece of the cake. Obviously management has their say but pilots don't.

You are right, there is no reason for the company to pay them more "just to be nice." This has been proven just recently. And this is precisely the reason why a NMB recognized union is needed. Thank you for making my point.

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Originally Posted by Nevets (Post 320326)

This is the type of mentality that doesn't help pilots. You are looking at it ONLY from management's perspective.

That's because management is the other party who signs the deal. If you don't look at it from their point of view you won't ever get a contract.

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And this is precisely the reason why a NMB recognized union is needed. Thank you for making my point.

Absolutely. It's why pilots as a union need one unified contract across the board. If you're flying an RJ, you make union RJ wages. If you're flying an Airbus, you make union Airbus wages.

It won't ever happen but it is nice to look forward to :).