Fastest way to the regionals???
#21
I almost feel bad for these fast-trackers, though not as bad as the thought of my family getting on some of these planes. The best flying gigs I had minus the current one were non-airline. You guys have no idea what you're missing. There's a lot more to flying than taking an RJ to the same dozen or so cities. Glad I don't have to deal with the 'new breed' anymore.
#22
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I almost feel bad for these fast-trackers, though not as bad as the thought of my family getting on some of these planes. The best flying gigs I had minus the current one were non-airline. You guys have no idea what you're missing. There's a lot more to flying than taking an RJ to the same dozen or so cities. Glad I don't have to deal with the 'new breed' anymore.
#23
You mean like having to go through training all over again and losing seniority in an already gambling industry where seniority and upgrades are everything? You're right. Outside of giving up the most valuable parts of your job there's very little sacrifice.
#24
I had ATP mins(rating, not the school) when I flew my first 121 leg. Just slightly more than the 300 hour dudes out there now. So, no not really.
#25
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And I used to hear that "it's not like back in the day when when I got hired, you had to have 10,000 single pilot IFR blah blah blah. Not like now where they hire you 1500 hour kids with nothing by CFI experience" bs.
#27
You know, I read most threads posted here and there are so many hypocritical comments. We talk about how pilots have to stick together with the brotherhood(and sisterhood) and the ongoing war between pilots and managements, blah, blah, blah. But now, when there are guys who don't have to instruct for 5 years(God forbid) to get into the flight deck trying to start a career for themselves, the whole unified bs blew away with the wind. The point that instructing experience is a common belief to folks is well taken however don't "hate" on the guy(or gal) who didn't have to go through the "CFI experience". The truth of the matter is that if this opportunity was given to the one who had to instruct, chances are they would have jumped all over it. If you feel unsafe, there are more options but keep in mind, the guy with tens of thousands of hours is very much capable of screwing up. My point? Instead of knocking down the newbie in the sky, try to stick to that "we have to stick together" thing that is attempted against management.
**Disclaimer**: This was by no means a flame or an attempt to offend anybody. Just statements of the truth.
**Disclaimer**: This was by no means a flame or an attempt to offend anybody. Just statements of the truth.
#29
You know, I read most threads posted here and there are so many hypocritical comments. We talk about how pilots have to stick together with the brotherhood(and sisterhood) and the ongoing war between pilots and managements, blah, blah, blah. But now, when there are guys who don't have to instruct for 5 years(God forbid) to get into the flight deck trying to start a career for themselves, the whole unified bs blew away with the wind. The point that instructing experience is a common belief to folks is well taken however don't "hate" on the guy(or gal) who didn't have to go through the "CFI experience". The truth of the matter is that if this opportunity was given to the one who had to instruct, chances are they would have jumped all over it. If you feel unsafe, there are more options but keep in mind, the guy with tens of thousands of hours is very much capable of screwing up. My point? Instead of knocking down the newbie in the sky, try to stick to that "we have to stick together" thing that is attempted against management.
**Disclaimer**: This was by no means a flame or an attempt to offend anybody. Just statements of the truth.
**Disclaimer**: This was by no means a flame or an attempt to offend anybody. Just statements of the truth.
There's nothing wrong with everyone arguing on both sides of the fence. You sound like we're doing it to be mean and aren't being unified. We're doing it to make sure the poster fully understands which decision he's about to make. We do it so he can make the decision that will be in his best interest. This isn't us being mean or not unified. We're doing it because we've all been in his position before, have shared his enthusiasm, and want what's best for him. Since we don't know what it is exactly he really wants we can only inform him to our best.
My opinion is flight instruction is one of the most valuable flight experiences you'll have. You'll learn a great deal as well as have a great sense of accomplishment when you see a student grow because of the skills you taught them. You'll also be opened up to many new experiences. If you fly out of an FBO and not a school you'll fly more aircraft and do things you never thought about.... I've flown a T-6, steermans and other biplanes, chased down illegals crossing the border in huskies landing in riverbeds, flown to other countries, several experimentals, etc. all as a cfi which was a big deal then. I don't care what I fly now I still miss the steerman. I think I'll hit that corp duster up this week! If I had just gone "the office" style environment of 121 I never would have had the good times I had then. Now I just hope I can make enough to go do those things again one day!
#30
You know, I read most threads posted here and there are so many hypocritical comments. We talk about how pilots have to stick together with the brotherhood(and sisterhood) and the ongoing war between pilots and managements, blah, blah, blah. But now, when there are guys who don't have to instruct for 5 years(God forbid) to get into the flight deck trying to start a career for themselves, the whole unified bs blew away with the wind. The point that instructing experience is a common belief to folks is well taken however don't "hate" on the guy(or gal) who didn't have to go through the "CFI experience". The truth of the matter is that if this opportunity was given to the one who had to instruct, chances are they would have jumped all over it. If you feel unsafe, there are more options but keep in mind, the guy with tens of thousands of hours is very much capable of screwing up. My point? Instead of knocking down the newbie in the sky, try to stick to that "we have to stick together" thing that is attempted against management.
WellIbedamn. Somebody finally said it.
Like I said before; attitudes and the industry as a whole is changing........and we must adapt to these changes otherwise we get left behind or we're left with an archaic view of things.
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