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-   -   FAA Opens Investigation on Go! Airlines (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/regional/22517-faa-opens-investigation-go-airlines.html)

N2rotation 02-19-2008 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 323374)
Sometimes people on this board can amaze me. You're all crucifying two of your fellow aviators based on one report from a local news station? Wow.:confused: Well forgive me for wanting to give them the benefit of the doubt when the only source most of us have is one wildly inaccurate local media story. Christ, I hope I never put my tie on wrong or forget to tie my shoe and it gets picked up by the local media and reported that I'm drunk:rolleyes: I can hear it now from the experts, "Well his shoe WAS untied. Pilots have procedures to follow if something like that happens. This individual was clearly drunk or distraught...either way, shouldn't be in an airplane and will have lots of explaining to do"
Crucifying two aviators that continue to bring down this industry by working for one of the largest pilot hating management teams in the world.
That's reason for blame, in my book.

Quit supporting the bottom feeder.

You know that Mesa's work rules are rock bottom, so is scheduling.

ncflyer704 02-19-2008 04:37 PM
Question: When the FMS is loaded the aircraft follows the flight plan. At the final fix you will get a flashing yellow "msg" on the PFD and the aircraft will fly its last heading??..

SmoothOnTop 02-19-2008 04:46 PM
With all due respect
 
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Originally Posted by N2rotation (Post 323556)
Crucifying two aviators that continue to bring down this industry by working for one of the largest pilot hating management teams in the world.
That's reason for blame, in my book.

Quit supporting the bottom feeder.

You know that Mesa's work rules are rock bottom, so is scheduling.
The regionals - really *commuter airlines are for time building so you can go to a major. If you want a career with a connector airline, Alaska has a very nice "regional". Mesa, AE, SKW and others aren't as different as one may think.

*Commuter (connector) schedule
ATL-GSP-GSP-ATL-MEM-ATL-LIT overnight
IAD-AUS-IAD-RIC overnight

N2rotation 02-19-2008 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by SmoothOnTop (Post 323584)
The regionals - really *commuter airlines are for time building so you can go to a major. If you want a career with a connector airline, Alaska has a very nice "regional". Mesa, AE, SKW and others aren't as different as one may think.

*Commuter (connector) schedule
ATL-GSP-GSP-ATL-MEM-ATL-LIT overnight
IAD-AUS-IAD-RIC overnight
Ahhh yeah. They are different. You can take it from me because I have worked for both Mesa and ExpressJet. ExpressJet treats their pilots 5x better, with higher earnings. We don't do crap schedules like the one you aforementioned.

It's not exactly 'time building' when you are flying a CRJ 900 with 90 souls on board from Phoenix - LAX in my book. 'Time building' takes place at flight schools, not airlines.

SmoothOnTop 02-19-2008 05:15 PM
Alright..
 
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Originally Posted by N2rotation (Post 323607)
Ahhh yeah. They are different. You can take it from me because I have worked for both Mesa and ExpressJet. ExpressJet treats their pilots 5x better, with higher earnings. We don't do crap schedules like the one you aforementioned.

It's not exactly 'time building' when you are flying a CRJ 900 with 90 souls on board from Phoenix - LAX in my book. 'Time building' takes place at flight schools, not airlines.
If your team can dump the gas pig RJs and pick-up some 73s for point to point flying you may be a a potential career airline...who knows?

tzadik 02-19-2008 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by N2rotation (Post 323556)
Crucifying two aviators that continue to bring down this industry by working for one of the largest pilot hating management teams in the world.
That's reason for blame, in my book.

Quit supporting the bottom feeder.

You know that Mesa's work rules are rock bottom, so is scheduling.
dude your attitude brings this industry down... you can hate on the criminal and his lackies till your hearts content but attackin friends that you probably used to fly with is BS... when you grow up youll realize that adults have responsabilities and quitting to go to expressjet might not be in ones best interest.

BEEFF 02-19-2008 05:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by N2rotation (Post 323556)
Crucifying two aviators that continue to bring down this industry by working for one of the largest pilot hating management teams in the world.
That's reason for blame, in my book.

Quit supporting the bottom feeder.

You know that Mesa's work rules are rock bottom, so is scheduling.
I hope the pilots get a fair shake given how they are scheduled, while FAA other than their "bought-and-paid-for" POI sets up camp at Mesa HQ and audits that place till it disintegrates.

paxhauler85 02-19-2008 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by N2rotation (Post 323607)
Ahhh yeah. They are different. You can take it from me because I have worked for both Mesa and ExpressJet. ExpressJet treats their pilots 5x better, with higher earnings. We don't do crap schedules like the one you aforementioned.

It's not exactly 'time building' when you are flying a CRJ 900 with 90 souls on board from Phoenix - LAX in my book. 'Time building' takes place at flight schools, not airlines.
Your the kind of guy who everyone hates to fly with. I can think of three just like you here at Mesa.

Negativity, and your die hard hate for Mesa may seem cool on here, or get you props from cfi's across the country, but for those of us who have a normal life outside of aviation, you're just plain annoying.

By the way, is there anyone at ExpressJet on these boards or that you have ever talked to, that knows you worked at and hate Mesa? Just curious.

I think I speak for many here when I say: Get a life, and relax.

locomoco 02-19-2008 10:56 PM
Pretty safe to say that if you overfly your destination airport at FL210 in perfect VFR conditions and require your FA to bang on the cockpit door to get your attention, you're either sleeping or doing something untoward up there. If you work for a regional that only serves 5 airports that are all about a half-hour apart (go!), you hopefully will get to know the routes well enough to notice something like sailing past the ENTIRE ISLAND at 21000 feet.

Hopefully this becomes:

1. Bad publicity and another nail in the coffin for go!,
2. A really good argument in favor of revising duty-time regs, and
3. A flight-safety argument to be used in Mesa's next contract negotiation.

Good luck to the crew.

8Lpearlchannel 02-20-2008 07:57 AM
http://starbulletin.com/2008/02/20/news/story08.html

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ap...802200422/1001

http://www.kitv.com/news/15347405/detail.html

http://kgmb9.com/main/content/view/4222/76/


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