So tell me Colgan Pilots, do you regret not voting ALPA in now?

Just to throw in my $.02:

It seems that the "relative seniority" method of merging lists is the only fair way to go. All of this "my airline is better than yours" nonsense is killing pilot unity and handing management victories hand over fist while they laugh their ways to the bank. The game of "Who's top?" vs. "Who's bottom?" has to end. Both companies always bring something to the table, and regardless of relative worth, the pilot group of any airline should not ever be punished. That is a surefire way to kill pilot unity and morale for years down the road.

Now, I'm sure their are ways to slightly modify the relative method to slightly adjust for upcoming retirements or slews of new hires at one company vs. no new hires at the other. However, these should only be slight adjustments. Screwing your partner in a merger is NEVER a good idea.

Finally, it would do ALPA a world of good to be exceptionally fair to Colgan despite their not choosing union representation. It's time for a good PR drive backed by actions at ALPA. Besides, it was a very close vote. There are a lot of pro-ALPA folks at Colgan, after all.

Wouldn't PNCL management try to seat-lock 9E pilots into their respective a/c, and also seat-lock Colgan pilots into whatever a/c they're currently on? I would think if the seniority lists were merged that mgmt would setup something like Republic/Chataq/Shuttle, where you've got one seniority list, but you're hired onto a certificate and seat-locked for 2 years due to costs of retraining lateral a/c transfers.

Evidence=ATL flying at 9E with the 2 yr seat lock for pilots transferring/assigned to that base.

Very simple take Colgan Pilots and STAPLE them to the BOTTOM on the Pinnacle list.

ALPA will screw everybody with some merge list that sends the existing Pinnacle Pilots backwards. That will be your dues at work!

Remember if this happens and the lists are merged there will be Pinnacle Pilots laid off before Colgan Pilots when the Delta Consolidation takes place.

It is only fair that Colgan guys get stapled. I don't want to sound rude but it's true. There's no reason a group who voted down a union should receive any bonus because the the other pilot group was unified, paid dues, and used the process.

He's right.

You would probably have to look elsewhere to find some. Of the Colgan pilots I know of on this site all of them either voted alpa or were hired just after the vote. The majority of pilots I have met at colgan that would actually care enough to read an online forum to keep up with the pulse of the industry also care enough to desire some type of union and the protection and collective bargaining that it would provide.

Hey on a side note I thought you were going on the 757?

So did I! (useless words to make this post more than 10 characters....done)

So what you're saying is that only unionized pilots deserve anything and non-unionized pilots are scum? Isn’t that the pot calling the kettle black?