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The Juice 02-22-2008 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by flyguyniner11 (Post 325576)
i'm pretty happy on the saab, although i'd love to make more money on the crj is this whole thing goes through and that is possible

Yeah, NicholasBlonde, we are all coming for your jets...watch out here we come.:rolleyes:

It is funny how scared you are about there being some mass exodus to the CRJ from Colgan. Trust me, you want our butts in your planes as much as we want your butts in ours.

skidmark 02-22-2008 02:50 PM

The Juice always speaks the Truth!

ExperimentalAB 02-22-2008 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by skidmark (Post 325644)
The Juice always speaks the Truth!

That is actually pretty funny - given his Avatar LoL :D

usmc-sgt 02-22-2008 03:54 PM

I tend to agree with some of your logic. If I wanted to fly a jet I would have applied to a company that flies jets. I have no desire to bid any of PNCLs aircraft. Of course everyone probably wants fences up because it is natural to not want anyone senior to you taking over your turf. It is what it is though and we will see what happens.

ToiletDuck 02-22-2008 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by JetJock16 (Post 325516)

As far as RAH's contract restrictions, I've heard nothing but heartache from some of RAH's pilots over it. Getting stuck in a domicile/AC when you could have better QOL on the another AC/certificate, but because you have a blended BS pay rate you're stuck until upgrade. Think about this, you’re working the CHQ cert on the E in DEN when you’re wife gets a job in ATL. Now you’re forced to commute even though your company has an ATL domicile (that your # can hold) on the a/c you currently fly. But you’re stuck on the CHQ cert because of your contract and seeing that your already flying the highest paying a/c in the fleet, you can never switch certs and therefore screwed.

I'll let someone else jump in but I think once your two year seat lock as captain is up you are free to go to another aircraft. I must admit I only fly with 145 guys that were going to the 170 though.

ToiletDuck 02-22-2008 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by usmc-sgt (Post 325668)
I tend to agree with some of your logic. If I wanted to fly a jet I would have applied to a company that flies jets. I have no desire to bid any of PNCLs aircraft. Of course everyone probably wants fences up because it is natural to not want anyone senior to you taking over your turf. It is what it is though and we will see what happens.

Yes but that's you. There are a lot of guys that went Colgan because they only had 300hrs and wanted to get their foot in a 121 carrier to one day fly those jets. SJSers

aFflIgHt 02-22-2008 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by Spooled (Post 324252)
"The final award in the ongoing scope arbitration is expected by weeks end. While the details are still not available for dissemination the arbitrator’s decision is very favorable for ALPA. A full analysis of the decision should be available by next week."

Here it is weeks end -- no decision yet??

POPA 02-22-2008 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by JetJock16 (Post 325516)
As far as RAH's contract restrictions, I've heard nothing but heartache from some of RAH's pilots over it. Getting stuck in a domicile/AC when you could have better QOL on the another AC/certificate, but because you have a blended BS pay rate you're stuck until upgrade. Think about this, you’re working the CHQ cert on the E in DEN when you’re wife gets a job in ATL. Now you’re forced to commute even though your company has an ATL domicile (that your # can hold) on the a/c you currently fly. But you’re stuck on the CHQ cert because of your contract and seeing that your already flying the highest paying a/c in the fleet, you can never switch certs and therefore screwed.

Were you drunk when you posted this, or just feeling the effects of all those paint chips you ate as a child?
Chautauqua does not have domiciles in either DEN or ATL. If we did have bases at those airports, you could switch back and forth every other month if you wanted (assuming you didn't get locked out by senior people filling your vacancy).
Everybody flying on the Chautauqua certificate is flying the LOWEST-paying aircraft on property at RAH. We fly the tiny planes, so we get the tiny paychecks.

de727ups 02-22-2008 09:27 PM

"There are a lot of guys that went Colgan because they only had 300hrs and wanted to get their foot in a 121 carrier to one day fly those jets. SJSers"

Isn't it PCL that has the deal with JetU? That's just as bad from a SJS standpoint.

Be Realistic 02-23-2008 03:55 AM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 325845)
Yes but that's you. There are a lot of guys that went Colgan because they only had 300hrs and wanted to get their foot in a 121 carrier to one day fly those jets. SJSers

And what are the regionals for if it is not to use as a stepping stone to the majors? Who took a job with the regionals saying I'm never leaving here. Lets not have another hours debate.


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