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SmoothOnTop 02-20-2008 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by atlmsl (Post 324473)
The C is "Canadair" and the L is "Lear". The supercritical wing on the CRJ was designed by Lear, thus the L in the symbology.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Lear
Not super official but the quickest reference I could find. Look under "innovations"

http://www.rcaf.com/aircraft/fighter...php?name=Sabre

How did Canadair know in 1949 to call the sabre a CL-13 (Canadair Lear super critical wing - 13 for luck), that Bombardier would buy them in 1986 and then Bombardier would buy Mr Lear's company in 1990?

If I'm hired at your company, no gouge from you please...

Blueskies21 02-20-2008 07:47 PM

Our op spec lists CL600-2B19 and CL600-2C10. Cl 65 is what it will say on your certificate. other than that it doesn't matter, my company has 200s and 700s, you get a differences class but no extra type, since that is the benefit of being type common.... want my gouge? lol

chitownpilot 02-20-2008 07:59 PM

"CL" = Canadair Ltd...the name of the Canadian state-owned aircraft manufacturing company before it was acquired by Bombardier.

CL-600-2B19 etc = Bombardier's model number
CL-65 = the FAA's designation (who knows why they are different)

our briefing cards at OO say CRJ 200 (or 700) - Canadair Regional Jet

IHateMgmt 02-20-2008 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by SmoothOnTop (Post 324490)
If I'm hired at your company, no gouge from you please...

Who the hell are you and what's with this 'no gouge' bull ****. Pretty amazing... you're not even in the airlines yet and you're already this cocky.

Lemme guess, you don't want my gouge either.

ExperimentalAB 02-20-2008 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by SmoothOnTop (Post 324490)
http://www.rcaf.com/aircraft/fighter...php?name=Sabre

How did Canadair know in 1949 to call the sabre a CL-13 (Canadair Lear super critical wing - 13 for luck), that Bombardier would buy them in 1986 and then Bombardier would buy Mr Lear's company in 1990?

If I'm hired at your company, no gouge from you please...

Dude, none of us are right all the time (except for maybe Saabaroooooowski!). Just take all the crud you read on APC and cold-filter it several times to finally find something to your liking...

atlmsl 02-20-2008 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by SmoothOnTop (Post 324490)
http://www.rcaf.com/aircraft/fighter...php?name=Sabre

How did Canadair know in 1949 to call the sabre a CL-13 (Canadair Lear super critical wing - 13 for luck), that Bombardier would buy them in 1986 and then Bombardier would buy Mr Lear's company in 1990?

If I'm hired at your company, no gouge from you please...

So if you have all the answers, why ask the question??? A check airman told me about the lear connection. Guess he doesn't belong in the cockpit afterall. Silly me.

texaspilot76 02-20-2008 09:52 PM

The CRJ is essentially a lengthened Challenger business jet. The reason that the CRJ is not designated a CL-600 like it's counterpart is due to the airlines. At one time, the CRJ had the same designation and many pilots were using the airlines to get free training essentially. They would get typed and then jump over into a corporate job flying the Challenger. This was costing the airlines money, so they went to the FAA and got the type certificate changed to a CL-65. So now it requires two different type ratings.

SmoothOnTop 02-21-2008 03:40 AM


Originally Posted by atlmsl (Post 324578)
So if you have all the answers, why ask the question??? A check airman told me about the lear connection. Guess he doesn't belong in the cockpit afterall. Silly me.

Good point. Again, I started this thread with the admission that it was nit-picking.

All the different answers were educational.

I only found the answers i quoted online. Some of the sources are only as good as the info submitted, garbage in-garbage out, the "Wik...encyclopedia" states this caution. Absolutely, the Lear airliner design became the bombardier crj.

As to your instructor pilot, I have the upmost respect for her/his position of responsibility in your airline.

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/sh...t=22354&page=2

As long as the aircraft is operated safely, who really cares what it's called?

Tinpusher007 02-21-2008 04:24 AM


Originally Posted by SmoothOnTop (Post 324644)
As to your instructor pilot, I have the upmost respect for her/his position of responsibility in your airline.

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/sh...t=22354&page=2

As long as the aircraft is operated safely, who really cares what it's called?


As long as we are nit picking, the word is utmost! And, I had wondered this same question, since all my books for the 900 say CL-600 2D24, but my cert says CL-65. I was unsure what to put in my logbook. I queried a few other guys who fly various models of the CRJ and just decided to go with what my cert says.

SmoothOnTop 02-21-2008 05:07 AM


Originally Posted by Tinpusher007 (Post 324660)
As long as we are nit picking, the word is utmost! And, I had wondered this same question, since all my books for the 900 say CL-600 2D24, but my cert says CL-65. I was unsure what to put in my logbook. I queried a few other guys who fly various models of the CRJ and just decided to go with what my cert says.

Hey good catch.

Could you please write down the fuel burns pph total at cruise (mach number and altitude,SAT temperature) on your next trip and post them.

Thanks.


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