thats my story when i go to the bar after work (take off my epiletes and tie and badge), 'ive been selling bibles all day'

Again, not LDS missionaries.

Can we plz refocus on the topic:
 

Regardless of what has happened to wages in the past decade, we must professionally represent ourselves to the flying public. A lay person may see a less professionally dressed crew member and think that's how he/she conducts flying, maybe that pilot takes naps, etc. ...ultimately safety concerns.

I shed the boards, badge and tie when I leave the airport because I don't like all of the stupid questions when I'm trying to relax for a meal. It only takes a minute. I haven't notice any weird "are you a Mormon?" looks. White shirt and dark blue slacks are pretty understated in my book.

again i didnt say it was

i even hate wearing the uniform in the airport, i never travel w/ it on if i can help it

I'm with you. I should have said that I shed the boards, badge and tie whenever I can get away with it.

I have found that a "We don't know, we're Australian!" with no attempt at an Aussie accent whatsoever draws some funny looks. :D

I think its important to look the best we can, whether its on duty in uniform or hanging out with your friends. I don't know about anyone else but it even makes you feel better about yourself.

I wish the airlines in the U.S gave their pilots nicer uniforms, something a little different, maybe higher quality. Most other places in the world have higher uniform standards, and everyone including the Flight Attendants looks better. Regardless of what they fly.

Some pilots refer to eachother as nothing more then glorified bus drivers, etc. etc. If we don't respect our selves and what we do (and the way we look reflects that) then how can we expect anyone else to respect us or what we do? The majority don't think that way anyways from what I can tell.

Just my .02 :D

Wow this thread got long. lol

thats what she said!!!

lol sry couldnt help myself

lol, half of my friends say that when anything sexually suggestive comes up. I must say it has gotten to be one of the most annoying catch phrases of the 2000's, along with . But still can be funny :D

I understand if you are on a tight sched or at the airport, but this restaraunt was at least 30 min away from the airport. These guys even had their crew badges on???

' do you really think you'll be able to do it all day long'
'well you always left me satsified and smililng'

That is comedy GOLD right there!

Why don't you start a fast food restuarant and make your employess wear suits and ties. You can have the best dressed welfare recepients working for you. As pilots, most of us...myself included look good doing a job we get paid peanuts to do. I take pride doing this job, I just feel it is time for us to be paid like professionals again.

No ****.

I think that's one of the problems with the new generation of professional pilots.

A majority of them never served a day in the military, or wore a standardized uniform before.

You can always tell your fellow military members who are pilots just by looking at their uniforms.

I've flown w/ several guys who I refer to as looking "very military and professional" normally they're clean cut, in decent shape, and wear their uniform well. On the contrary, i've seen a lot of ex-military pilots who, for whatever reason, have strayed a little far away from their previous standards, then i've seen the others who make me want to hit the wall in the presence.

What's glorified about the regional airline pilot job?

With the exception of the occasional six year old, very few people are in awe of what we do. But then, to borrow from another, I'm not carrying a load of life-saving anything anywhere, I'm mostly getting ****ed off people safely to Newark.

Whoda thunk flying a load of rudder dog :eek: out of Hong Kong would be the ideal job just ten short years after the movie?

Trying to make the company issued/approved uniforms look good is liking winning the special olympics...

Try buying a nice pair of pants at Nordstroms in your company's colors.

BTW how many guys who are boasting about shining their shoes and ironing their shirts are wearing clip on ties? If you think people can't tell, you're wrong.

So Freakin true-the zipper ties are somewhat better but the clip ons are hideous!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Flew with a few slobs at my last carrier. I walked two paces behind them in the terminal because it was so embarrassing. I don't care if I'm paid peanuts - I'm still gonna be the best damn looking peanuts.

And I agree, those clip-ons are awful. The zipper ties (if worn tight) look good.

[quote/]And I agree, those clip-ons are awful. The zipper ties (if worn tight) look good.[/quote]


The zipper ties still have a real cheezy looking knot. I would love to find a nice silk tie but its hard to match the Navy Blue on our uniforms...i know some guys who wear a tie thats close to the color...but it just doesnt look right

So you're saying if the military used Brooks Brothers they'd be able to get an additional hour out of everyone?:eek:

Joking aside I wish Brooks Brothers made pilot shirts. Their clothing is hands down the best from quality retailers. Never need ironing and look like they just came from the cleaners after 5min in drier.

On yet another note they are having a 50% off sale. If you use your airline ID you get an additional 20% off. I just went there and picked up a few long sleeve button down shirts for roughly $20 a piece.

A lot of people wear the clip-ons because they are FFDOs and have been taught how much of a hazard a rope around the neck can be. I still wear the zip though.

Here's one for everyone... Blazer and Hat, or Leather jacket and get to skip having the Blazer and Hat? I for one think the blazer looks more professional, but the leather jacket is sooooo easy!

That's what I think. Blazer and Hat. I'm an airline pilot.
I think the leather jacket makes you look like a cargo pilot.

Not that there's anything wrong with that!;)

I havent read every post in this thread, but I have a question regarding hats.

Decades ago men in uniform (officers in the military and airline pilots) used to wear their caps tilted off to the side just a little bit. Nowadays, no one does that.

I happen to think that the tilted look is rather classy if the face and rest of the uniform is well groomed and well fitted. I just cant help but think that if someone were to do that today, that that person would just be laughed at behind his back, despite how common it used to be.

Any thoughts? Also, would the age of the person wearing a tilted cap make a difference in your impression of that person?

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I'd imagine it's because it's tacky and looks sloppy.

Ah yes. PanAm and the white hats. Real class. I wish more airlines had the white hats these days...

DISCLAIMER: I am not trashing any Republic or Chautauqua pilot in this post and it is not flame bait.

We had a Chautauqua guy try to get a ride from us the other day. He looked like hell. He had a dirty, wrinkled shirt like it just came out of the laundry basket and wore his pants down low like a "gangsta". I was really embarrassed to have him in our airplane. He really reflected poorly on the rest of the Chautauqua pilot group. Although, I'm sure most people in the cabin thought he was a Comair pilot since he was in our cabin, which reflected poorly on us.

If you don't carry yourself well...you don't belong in any uniform...

Agreed with Experimental, some of it has to do with how you carry yourself, the other half of the coin is whether or not you take any pride in the way you look. And yes, those white hats looked "pimp" to say the least.

Wearing the hat of kilter, isn't as popular anymore, partially because while it looked "cool" for a world war II film, doesn't look the part anymore, and yes, you probably would get laughed at behind your back. On the contrary, i'm doing my best to get my hat to do the 50 mission crunch, as i do still think that looks vedy nice.

I hate the hat, looks like a satellite.

If you wanna choose the uniform, buy the company.

It may seem trivial, but the uniform helps establish our identity as a distinct group, aside from society at large. The public WANTS to believe we are all highly professional (even if we know the occasional lapses occur), and they like to see us appear so.

On an related note, I just got 20 shirts back from the cleaner's and they forgot to crease my sleeves! :mad:

Oh, I wear the clip-on, I don't really think anyone can tell unless they can see the clip (they can't on mine), and I wear it because I can remove it easily during pushback.

I meant my hat looks like a satellite dish...I gotta go, another out/back..

Why the heck do you need / have 20 shirts?

Ha, I knew that was coming!

We get a uniform allowance every year, and at the end of the year, if I haven't used it, (I'll lose it), I get shirts and pants. Over the years, I've accumulated quite a few shirts. I do throw some out, from time to time, if they start to look 'off-white'. I like having a big stock of shirts, since it cuts down on trips to the dry cleaner's, and doesn't cost me any more, anyway. I'm PO'ed now, since I have to iron my freakin' sleeves before every work day! I think the sleeve crease is mandatory, or it should be anyway! Dry cleaning day is the one time I miss our QX pre-contract days. Back then, 100% of dry cleaning was covered by the company. Now we get a pittance for that.

Take your allowance and buy some new gear...in the form of "Shirts and pants" :p

Now where did I see this stylish garment, was it a Prince video, the movie "Mad Max", or maybe it was an episode of Knight Rider....and people give me crap for wearing my hat. :)