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Old 03-01-2008 | 07:33 PM
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For those of you following the recent incident involving GO! in Hawaii, KGMB in Honolulu just did a story on Mesa and pilot fatigue. Here is the link:

http://kgmb9.com/main/content/view/4441/40/
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Old 03-01-2008 | 08:02 PM
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Food for thought..

Take the same scenario in China where Mesa is propsed to start ops. I wonder what the Chinese would do if a Mesa jet wandered for 15-25 minutes without radio call responses.

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Old 03-02-2008 | 01:52 AM
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Lil late with posting the story, but it never gets old hearing about Mesa's antics
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Old 03-02-2008 | 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by FliFast
Food for thought..

Take the same scenario in China where Mesa is propsed to start ops. I wonder what the Chinese would do if a Mesa jet wandered for 15-25 minutes without radio call responses.

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Old 03-02-2008 | 04:06 AM
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Does this mean the pay rates will also go down in China?Bit surprised China would allow Mesa to operate in their country
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Old 03-02-2008 | 04:39 AM
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They will be paid in cat food, with yearly bonuses in steamed dumplings and Geberal Tso's cat. Maybe scabjets can head over there and do some "work"...
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Old 03-02-2008 | 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by laxflier
They will be paid in cat food, with yearly bonuses in steamed dumplings and Geberal Tso's cat. Maybe scabjets can head over there and do some "work"...
rofl! I hope not we have enough ppl running equip. over here and you deffinitely do not want to be taking naps while in Chinese airspace or the space around china not a good feeling to be running into another piece of metal.
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Old 03-02-2008 | 10:24 AM
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maybe, just maybe, they thought they were getting paid block or better and were trying to stick it to the man (jo).
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Old 03-02-2008 | 11:37 AM
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I don't know about you guys, but all joking aside, I blame the FAA for allowing this 8hr rest circus to go on as long as it has.

Fact: The NTSB has been trying to persuade the FAA to change it's policy based on the findings of the corpex accident in kirksville, MO (among others).

Fact: The unions (ALPA in particular) have been trying to get the FAA to change it's position on it, also based on independent studies, as well as, it's own data showing the adverse effects of such reduce rest time in today's more demanding airline environment.

Fact: Sadly the Airlines (collectively) apparently have more lobbying power, and would love to see the law stay same....J.O. in particular.

Let's not crucify these guys for being victims of an outdated policy intended for the pilots in the 70's doing 2 legs a day; not the current scenario.
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Old 03-02-2008 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DYNASTY HVY
Does this mean the pay rates will also go down in China?Bit surprised China would allow Mesa to operate in their country

From the country that puts lead in toys to save a few bucks. Come on...it's a perfect match!


Bond: I read in another post that they were off duty at about 2pm the day before. IF that is true, I doubt the reduced rest issue will see the light of day.
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