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Old 03-02-2008 | 03:12 PM
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So what do you think the staffing level will be for the CRJ 200 at Mesaba?
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Old 03-02-2008 | 03:24 PM
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We staff about 9 pilots per plane... so you can plan on about 170. That doesn't include mgmt, phantoms and stuff like that. The numbers might be a bit off, but it's a good estimation. Based on the latest 200 vacancy notice, we're up to 85 CA and 78 FOs. This closed a few weeks ago and the Captains start class on 3/3.

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Old 03-02-2008 | 05:45 PM
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Would you consider this plea for picking up flying at 150% as a way to mask the underlying problems at Pinnacle? It's convenient to blame Mesaba and our issues and to gloss over the fact your airline is run by people who can manage their way out of a paper bag. The fact is that you guys have a staffing problem that was out of control long before the 200s started coming to Mesaba.
Certainly more plausible than the idea of Phildo speaking anything close to the truth. NW is doing management a favor -- we couldn't staff an additional 17 planes anyways. I talked with someone in Scheduling last week and they said the MSP base is continuing to shrink.
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Old 03-02-2008 | 07:25 PM
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Now is that 9 total pilots per plane or 9 FO's and 9 CA per plane? I am just curious.
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Old 03-02-2008 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Farva
Now is that 9 total pilots per plane or 9 FO's and 9 CA per plane? I am just curious.
I believe its 9-10 total per plane. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old 03-02-2008 | 07:54 PM
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well i dunno. They said in class that they will continue to hire 200 guys every month and that was from a couple of weeks ago. So maybe its 9 of each? because if its total then they should have stopped hiring guys a while back.
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Old 03-02-2008 | 08:00 PM
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well i dunno. They said in class that they will continue to hire 200 guys every month and that was from a couple of weeks ago. So maybe its 9 of each? because if its total then they should have stopped hiring guys a while back.
If you look at the estimate of 10 crews per plane and I think we should end up with just over 100 planes, that pretty much matches the seniority list that we currently have. Just a thought.

Either way 200 a month is a way overshoot unless we get more airplanes in my opinion. As of 3/4/08 we are up to 60 new hires this year.
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Old 03-02-2008 | 08:38 PM
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I would be willing to believe 20 new hires per month.
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Old 03-03-2008 | 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Farva
well i dunno. They said in class that they will continue to hire 200 guys every month and that was from a couple of weeks ago. So maybe its 9 of each? because if its total then they should have stopped hiring guys a while back.
I think what he means is that they are going continue hiring into the CRJ200 every month.
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Old 03-03-2008 | 05:51 AM
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A lot of the flow up guys are coming from 200 CA, so there should still be movement. Also, no 900's are parked, and even if they were, they can't contractually be flown by pinnacle anyway.
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