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Farva

03-02-2008 03:12 PM

So what do you think the staffing level will be for the CRJ 200 at Mesaba?

bored

03-02-2008 03:24 PM

We staff about 9 pilots per plane... so you can plan on about 170. That doesn't include mgmt, phantoms and stuff like that. The numbers might be a bit off, but it's a good estimation. Based on the latest 200 vacancy notice, we're up to 85 CA and 78 FOs. This closed a few weeks ago and the Captains start class on 3/3.

norskman2

03-02-2008 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bored (Post 331936)

Would you consider this plea for picking up flying at 150% as a way to mask the underlying problems at Pinnacle? It's convenient to blame Mesaba and our issues and to gloss over the fact your airline is run by people who can manage their way out of a paper bag. The fact is that you guys have a staffing problem that was out of control long before the 200s started coming to Mesaba.

Certainly more plausible than the idea of Phildo speaking anything close to the truth. NW is doing management a favor -- we couldn't staff an additional 17 planes anyways. I talked with someone in Scheduling last week and they said the MSP base is continuing to shrink.

Farva

03-02-2008 07:25 PM

Now is that 9 total pilots per plane or 9 FO's and 9 CA per plane? I am just curious.

BenFluth216

03-02-2008 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Farva (Post 332243)

Now is that 9 total pilots per plane or 9 FO's and 9 CA per plane? I am just curious.

I believe its 9-10 total per plane. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Farva

03-02-2008 07:54 PM

well i dunno. They said in class that they will continue to hire 200 guys every month and that was from a couple of weeks ago. So maybe its 9 of each? because if its total then they should have stopped hiring guys a while back.

WIPilot

03-02-2008 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Farva (Post 332274)

If you look at the estimate of 10 crews per plane and I think we should end up with just over 100 planes, that pretty much matches the seniority list that we currently have. Just a thought.

Either way 200 a month is a way overshoot unless we get more airplanes in my opinion. As of 3/4/08 we are up to 60 new hires this year.

LoudFastRules

03-02-2008 08:38 PM

I would be willing to believe 20 new hires per month.

RatherBGolfin

03-03-2008 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Farva (Post 332274)

well i dunno. They said in class that they will continue to hire 200 guys every month and that was from a couple of weeks ago. So maybe its 9 of each? because if its total then they should have stopped hiring guys a while back.

I think what he means is that they are going continue hiring into the CRJ200 every month.

Mesabah

03-03-2008 05:51 AM

A lot of the flow up guys are coming from 200 CA, so there should still be movement. Also, no 900's are parked, and even if they were, they can't contractually be flown by pinnacle anyway.

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