SkyWest to furlough?
#41
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Yes, RAH has furloughed. Management is contractually obligated to furlough pilots instead of just kicking them to the curb. Is there anything that forces SKW to do the same? The "we've never done it before" argument doesn't really hold water, as I'm more interested in something concrete.
How does that make any sense?? If the poop hits the fan bad, we'll see furloughs, not layoffs.
#42
It's a bit difficult to follow exactly what you're trying to say. You claim that SkyWest furloughed 6 ?
Did these employees already have their airplane ride completed (not just sim?). I ask because they wouldn't be covered by our (non-union) contract until that fateful day.
I believe at Delta, according to a former SkyWest guy who is a new hire there, he wouldn't be furloughed, but canned, until he completed 400 hours or 6 months (whichever is first) of probation.
I did see a -900 parked in the weeds today at SLC, with a handful of -200's and a -120. I'm sure the furlough thing came up on 9/11, as well as other tough times. SkyWest just hasn't done it yet, but like has been pointed out, it took Delta 60 years to pop that cherry. We've only been around 35

I personally would take a voluntary vacation, 'cuz let's face it, most of us should be able to make more money at virtually any job, than an F/O at any regional carrier.
For the folks new to SkyWest, just know that any actual furlough would be an extremely tough decision by folks who do pride themselves on doing the right thing for more than three decades. Smart money decisions have to be made, and a furlough certainly is always on the table. But it won't be a willy nilly choice. And I doubt anything would happen until this summer, to see whether loads and flying pick up as they traditionally do.
Relax until then. With a major election coming up, multiple huge airline mergers, record oil prices, screwed up financial market, but still high load factors, anything can happen.
I vote for raising ticket prices !
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(If you can't quite figure it out, now I'm just picking on you. Sorry if it was too heavy handed.
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It's a bit difficult to follow exactly what you're trying to say. You claim that SkyWest furloughed 6 ?
Did these employees already have their airplane ride completed (not just sim?). I ask because they wouldn't be covered by our (non-union) contract until that fateful day.
I believe at Delta, according to a former SkyWest guy who is a new hire there, he wouldn't be furloughed, but canned, until he completed 400 hours or 6 months (whichever is first) of probation.
I did see a -900 parked in the weeds today at SLC, with a handful of -200's and a -120. I'm sure the furlough thing came up on 9/11, as well as other tough times. SkyWest just hasn't done it yet, but like has been pointed out, it took Delta 60 years to pop that cherry. We've only been around 35
I personally would take a voluntary vacation, 'cuz let's face it, most of us should be able to make more money at virtually any job, than an F/O at any regional carrier.
For the folks new to SkyWest, just know that any actual furlough would be an extremely tough decision by folks who do pride themselves on doing the right thing for more than three decades. Smart money decisions have to be made, and a furlough certainly is always on the table. But it won't be a willy nilly choice. And I doubt anything would happen until this summer, to see whether loads and flying pick up as they traditionally do.
Relax until then. With a major election coming up, multiple huge airline mergers, record oil prices, screwed up financial market, but still high load factors, anything can happen.
I vote for raising ticket prices !
Did these employees already have their airplane ride completed (not just sim?). I ask because they wouldn't be covered by our (non-union) contract until that fateful day.
I believe at Delta, according to a former SkyWest guy who is a new hire there, he wouldn't be furloughed, but canned, until he completed 400 hours or 6 months (whichever is first) of probation.
I did see a -900 parked in the weeds today at SLC, with a handful of -200's and a -120. I'm sure the furlough thing came up on 9/11, as well as other tough times. SkyWest just hasn't done it yet, but like has been pointed out, it took Delta 60 years to pop that cherry. We've only been around 35

I personally would take a voluntary vacation, 'cuz let's face it, most of us should be able to make more money at virtually any job, than an F/O at any regional carrier.
For the folks new to SkyWest, just know that any actual furlough would be an extremely tough decision by folks who do pride themselves on doing the right thing for more than three decades. Smart money decisions have to be made, and a furlough certainly is always on the table. But it won't be a willy nilly choice. And I doubt anything would happen until this summer, to see whether loads and flying pick up as they traditionally do.
Relax until then. With a major election coming up, multiple huge airline mergers, record oil prices, screwed up financial market, but still high load factors, anything can happen.
I vote for raising ticket prices !

#49
Probation at Delta is 400 hours of block time or 12 months which ever occurs first. Also probationary pilots are not "canned" in the event of a furlough. I seriously doubt a Delta pilot, new hire or otherwise, would not be aware of this. Not only were all of the post 9/11 furloughs still on probation offered recall, but were also given longevity credit for time spent on furlough. Thus a 2001 hire returned from furlough at 7th year pay.
Thanks for clarifying. It's entirely possible that he does know, and I misunderstood.
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He might have meant in the event of a strike. A probationary pilot participating in a job action would not be initially protected. However, the back to work agreement will usually have language reinstating probationary pilots that honored the strike.
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