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03-15-2008 | 03:52 PM

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Justdoinmyjob

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Originally Posted by Deez340

Probation at Delta is 400 hours of block time or 12 months which ever occurs first. Also probationary pilots are not "canned" in the event of a furlough. I seriously doubt a Delta pilot, new hire or otherwise, would not be aware of this. Not only were all of the post 9/11 furloughs still on probation offered recall, but were also given longevity credit for time spent on furlough. Thus a 2001 hire returned from furlough at 7th year pay.

What Deez said. The furlough plug hadn't even finished IOE when he was shown the door. Yet he got all the contractual rights every other pilot got, plus the fact that EVERY pilot at DAL knows his name and every furloughee knows exactly how many numbers they are from him.

03-15-2008 | 04:31 PM

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Airwaves

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Asking people to go on voluntary leave is one of many signs of an impending furlough. It's Airline Business Management 101.

03-15-2008 | 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Airwaves

Asking people to go on voluntary leave is one of many signs of an impending furlough. It's Airline Business Management 101.

LOL! What wisdom! Where were you on the XJT thread, you know the one, where they are asking for 300 pilots to take voluntary leave.

03-15-2008 | 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Airwaves

Asking people to go on voluntary leave is one of many signs of an impending furlough. It's Airline Business Management 101.

It is only for april and only for 25 F/As total.

The whole furlough garbage is just that, Garbage. We are still running both a bro newhire and an upgrade class in april and are still adding 7 airplanes worth of midwest flying in the next 2 months.

03-15-2008 | 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob

Nah, just an anal type A+ pilot. You know, the usual. Although it may also be a side effect of trying to teach an eight year old how to proofread what he writes.

You have problem with Chinese people?

03-15-2008 | 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Deez340

He might have meant in the event of a strike. A probationary pilot participating in a job action would not be initially protected.

When does the contract apply to a Delta pilot.

First day of indoc?

End of training? IOE ?

03-15-2008 | 05:32 PM

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It's a bit difficult to follow exactly what you're trying to say. You claim that SkyWest furloughed 6 ?

Did these employees already have their airplane ride completed (not just sim?). I ask because they wouldn't be covered by our (non-union) contract until that fateful day.

wow, you didn't understand what i said? OK, i will repeat and clarify i guess. i personally know 6 guys that either finished training/ioe/checkrides and were sent packing after 9/11. were there more?? don't know. like i said i personally only knew of 6 guys. they came back to the school they left to instruct again (that is how i know them). and they took a few of my students. now how could i know there were exactly 6 that came back. well i was a dispatcher at the flight school and was incharge of setting up students with instructors.

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Originally Posted by weasil

The company offered voluntary unpaid leaves to the flight attendants this week.

hmm

03-15-2008 | 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TonyWilliams

When does the contract apply to a Delta pilot.

First day of indoc?

End of training? IOE ?

Not sure I understand the question. The short answer is day one. If it's probation that you're asking about. A simplified explanation of probation would be an initial period of time after you get hired in which it's easier for the company to get buyer's remorse and solve the problem by firing you. It gets more difficult for them to do so after probation. The provisions of the PWA apply to you day one.