121 total time logging- mins or .x?
03-21-2008 | 07:27 AM
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121 total time logging- mins or .x?
I have my own method of keeping the logbook up to date. I use the little red book for trips and log out/in and the total is in minutes. I come home and put the trip into my big logbook and use the decimal conversion and then put all the info into logbook pro- still using the decimal system. I was looking at my progress towards upgrade time and in the last year and a half I have a difference between crewtrac and my decimal logbook by roughly 25 hours. Just curious if people are sticking with the decimal system or using minutes...
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03-21-2008 | 07:50 AM
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In theory the minute to decimal conversion should average out over time... however even if it doesnt..... 25 hours over a year and a half on what a thousand or more hours...... not sure I would be overly concerned. Obviously if you kept your logbook in minutes in would be as close to exact as possible. FWIW... I use APDL and it converts it to decimal .... and see no need to change.
03-21-2008 | 07:53 AM
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when I put the numbers in my little red book I convert to decimels and then transfer that my logbook as is.
I round the numbers up or down to the nearest tenth and do not worry about it. I have thought about the potential "shadyness" of rounding up and logging hours I did not fly but the worst it can be is 3 minutes and because I round it is a wash in either direction. I am not worried about the difference compared to crewtrac in the end because the hours are neglible and you can upgrade based on TT in your logbook and TIT on crewtrac. Because I fly outside of 121 my TT will not reflect what they have in crewtrac.
I round the numbers up or down to the nearest tenth and do not worry about it. I have thought about the potential "shadyness" of rounding up and logging hours I did not fly but the worst it can be is 3 minutes and because I round it is a wash in either direction. I am not worried about the difference compared to crewtrac in the end because the hours are neglible and you can upgrade based on TT in your logbook and TIT on crewtrac. Because I fly outside of 121 my TT will not reflect what they have in crewtrac.
03-21-2008 | 09:22 AM
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Go by your logbook and thats it. Some companys have the tendencies of blocking you back in when you are really out. I know at my former place they would do that after the jetway was off and we had asked to push and it would take 20-30 mins.
03-21-2008 | 10:04 AM
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this may be the crazy way of doing it but this is what i do.
i write down the times while on the trip on my release, just incase the fms goes out. thats it. then when i get done from my trip i pull up crewtrac and log my time by exactly what it says in the system for the day. for example if i flew three legs that day totaling 6:14 of block i would write in my log book all the legs in one space (mem-bos-ind) and put it in as 6.2 all my times come from crewtrac so i don't have to worry about that other stuff.
i write down the times while on the trip on my release, just incase the fms goes out. thats it. then when i get done from my trip i pull up crewtrac and log my time by exactly what it says in the system for the day. for example if i flew three legs that day totaling 6:14 of block i would write in my log book all the legs in one space (mem-bos-ind) and put it in as 6.2 all my times come from crewtrac so i don't have to worry about that other stuff.
03-21-2008 | 12:53 PM
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Maybe its because I am OCD. I keep each leg logged in the red book/ main logbook in a fireproof safe, logbook pro on my computer which is then backed up to a jumpdrive also in the safe box and everything electronic backed up to a RAID 1 server. The server is then backed up to a mobile notebook drive and kept at a remote location. Records are important to me
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03-21-2008 | 01:13 PM
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this may be the crazy way of doing it but this is what i do.
i write down the times while on the trip on my release, just incase the fms goes out. thats it. then when i get done from my trip i pull up crewtrac and log my time by exactly what it says in the system for the day. for example if i flew three legs that day totaling 6:14 of block i would write in my log book all the legs in one space (mem-bos-ind) and put it in as 6.2 all my times come from crewtrac so i don't have to worry about that other stuff.
i write down the times while on the trip on my release, just incase the fms goes out. thats it. then when i get done from my trip i pull up crewtrac and log my time by exactly what it says in the system for the day. for example if i flew three legs that day totaling 6:14 of block i would write in my log book all the legs in one space (mem-bos-ind) and put it in as 6.2 all my times come from crewtrac so i don't have to worry about that other stuff.
03-21-2008 | 01:14 PM
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Maybe its because I am OCD. I keep each leg logged in the red book/ main logbook in a fireproof safe, logbook pro on my computer which is then backed up to a jumpdrive also in the safe box and everything electronic backed up to a RAID 1 server. The server is then backed up to a mobile notebook drive and kept at a remote location. Records are important to me.
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03-21-2008 | 01:44 PM
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From: Left seat, wait right seat, no no left seat, nope right seat! Ummmm, I guess I am confused
I go off CrewTrac and haven't found too many errors yet (I do check versus what we should be blocking) then I just use logshare.com as my electronic version and my paper Jepp logbook. Don't have a safe so I just keep those on my desk in the open 
After more that 500 hours the company and I are off by about 2.5 hours on what my time is--mine is lower.
After more that 500 hours the company and I are off by about 2.5 hours on what my time is--mine is lower.
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