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Old 03-25-2008 | 10:15 AM
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Anyone know if they have sent out letters to the people in the 5/5 new hire bro class yet?
Old 03-25-2008 | 01:43 PM
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Does SKYW reduce their minimums for 121 jet time.
700 TT
550 ME
500 121

I am looking to move back west and also get ready for 9E to fold
Old 03-25-2008 | 01:47 PM
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800 tt for crj experience
Old 03-25-2008 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by avi8tor4life
800 tt for crj experience
It's actually 850 TT with 121 experience.

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Old 03-25-2008 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by bornc7d
Does SKYW reduce their minimums for 121 jet time.
700 TT
550 ME
500 121

I am looking to move back west and also get ready for 9E to fold
Only 700 TT with 500 121? That means you got hired with 200TT! WOW!

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Originally Posted by JetJock16
Only 700 TT with 500 121? That means you got hired with 200TT, where do you work? GoJet?
I know last year, UND grads were getting hired by Mesaba and Pinnacle with our 4-year degree. I finished there with 180 TT and 25 multi after my commercial inst/multi courses. I did CFI/CFII so I had 240 TT when I left, but our Aviation Management Majors could easily leave there with under 200 TT. It's really quality time though, since you probably have close to around 500+ hours of equivalent training with all the ground school and classes you need to take. UND is a 141 school, so it has a lot lower minimums due to the requirements of the training.

I had to instruct for a year because I came out year before the boom. Glad though because I couldn't be happier at XJT.
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Originally Posted by tpersuit
I know last year, UND grads were getting hired by Mesaba and Pinnacle with our 4-year degree. I finished there with 180 TT and 25 multi after my commercial inst/multi courses. I did CFI/CFII so I had 240 TT when I left, but our Aviation Management Majors could easily leave there with under 200 TT. It's really quality time though, since you probably have close to around 500+ hours of equivalent training with all the ground school and classes you need to take. UND is a 141 school, so it has a lot lower minimums due to the requirements of the training.

I had to instruct for a year because I came out year before the boom. Glad though because I couldn't be happier at XJT.
There are a lot of 141 schools who offer the same quality of training but that doesn't mean you're any more ready for the 121 world. I'm sure most will agree there are important attributes that one gains from instructing for a year or two; like confidence, desicion making and responsibility. All are very important and a 200 hour wonder may posses one but not all of the above, only time in command can net all.

An example of when I feel a 200 hour wonder MIGHT be ready for the 121 world is when they come from a background that has netted them many years of cammand experience. Meaning this is their second professional career. Even then I feel they will need a little more experience before moving on but not as much as a greenhorn just out of college who has never experience real resonsiblily/command. BTW teaching a class or two as an undergrad does not count, you need to be in command of others and teaching students does fit the bill (speaking from experience).

I mean no offense to any 200 hour wonder, JMO.

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Old 03-25-2008 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by bornc7d
Does SKYW reduce their minimums for 121 jet time.
700 TT
550 ME
500 121

I am looking to move back west and also get ready for 9E to fold
Originally Posted by JetJock16
Only 700 TT with 500 121? That means you got hired with 200TT, where do you work? GoJet?

Come on JetJock16, he said he was getting ready for 9E to fold. You know that's not GoJet.

bornc7d, Fly another two months and get your app in and get into the pool. I left that place (9E), for SKYW and could begin to tell you how positive the change has been.
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Come on JetJock16, he said he was getting ready for 9E to fold. You know that's not GoJet.

bornc7d, Fly another two months and get your app in and get into the pool. I left that place (9E), for SKYW and could begin to tell you how positive the change has been.
So he did, kind of got stuck on the low numbers and when you see numbers like that BlowJet comes to mind.
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Originally Posted by JetJock16
There are a lot of 141 schools who offer the same quality of training but that doesn't mean you're any more ready for the 121 world. I'm sure most will agree there are important attributes that one gains from instructing for a year or two; like confidence, desicion making and responsibility. All are very important and a 200 hour wonder may posses one but not all of the above, only time in command can net all.

An example of when I feel a 200 hour wonder MIGHT be ready for the 121 world is when they come from a background that has netted them many years of cammand experience. Meaning this is their second professional career. Even then I feel they will need a little more experience before moving on but not as much as a greenhorn just out of college who has never experience real resonsiblily/command. BTW teaching a class or two as an undergrad does not count, you need to be in command of others and teaching students does fit the bill (speaking from experience).

I mean no offense to any 200 hour wonder, JMO.
Don't get me wrong, my flight instruction made me a whole lot better pilot that if I were not to do it.

However, don't equate those of us that spent 4-years at college, taking a ton of advance classes to the same as someone that did the GA route. Go to UND and Riddle and tell me its not hard. Probably only 25% or less from my freshman class even finished.

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