You know what they say when you assume...

There has been no talk of additional aircraft. IF NWA were to purchase additional regional jets, they could just as easily buy EMB-175s for Compass, or place additional CRJ900's with another carrier. There is absolutely no reason to assume Mesaba will get any additional aircraft, as least in the near future.

Not to mention if there are any furloughs at NWA due to aircraft retirements, they flowback to Mesaba and Compass. (I believe this is correct anyway).

The amount of flowback to Mesaba will equal the amount of flow up. If they furloughed today, less than a couple would get to flow back. Not a big deal. Compass had they had a chance to flow, would be under a different flowback set of rules, far less favorable than our flowback at XJ. This is of course NWA indeed furloughs. No talk of the F word overthere yet.

agreed. With the flow-back clause mesaba guys will not get hosed. As many that have gone up can come down which isnt very many.
And once again....agreed the bottom of any seniority list over this summer and over the next year or so is scary. Im thanking god ive acquired some decent seniority thanks to the hiring boom. Im not necessarily safe though, none of us are i guess.

Personally I got heired on the 27th of Feb... and am still waiting for a class date.... so whatever that means

That all depends on how many NWA furloughs. If 10 Mesaba guys go up that is 10 spots open to flow down. If NWA furloughs 100 then those 10 Mesaba guys are out of luck.

yeah basically what i said. I was more or less referring to the bottom of the seniority list. Such as if there was no flow back restriction and a bunch of NWA guys came back a ton of XJ people would be out of a job. But yeah basically what i said.

Yup, and I am with you--glad that I have some seniority to weather the bad times if they come around again.

If a NWA furlough happened at this point or anytime between now and summer there would likely not be any furloughs at Mesaba. All XJ would do is cancel classes and put people into a pool. We're still hiring for our "growth" and if there is somehow a need for less pilots, they have options before furloughing. Furloughs will likely happen if we find ourselves in a situation with no hiring, no growth and very little movement - like the last times we've furloughed. I wouldn't worry about anything quite yet.

Regarding flowbacks... the flowbacks may not necessarily be former XJ pilots. Or even further, there may not be anyone that wants to flowback. Look at Compass... they were created for NWA pilot job protection and very few of NWAs furloughs took the job at Compass.

Job protection for nwa pilots. wow. you do remember why compass was created right?