Uh yes... Compass was created by NWA/ALPA to provide furlough protection for NWA pilots. Initially "newco" was an idea by NWA mgmt to probably squeeze the pilots, but it evolved into what we know as Compass today. The ironic thing is that very few NWA furloughs even went to Compass. Let me rephrase it for you... Compass is a safety net for NWA pilots should there be a furlough at NWA. Why do you think the Compass flowthrough has a BUMP AND FLUSH flowback provision.

There is nothing Compass is doing for NWA that Mesaba or Pinnacle couldn't do. There is no need for another Airlink carrier, except to provide NWA pilots with job protection. NWA pilots allowed Compass to be created and come to fruition.

What's your definition of Compass?

here, i will give you the wikipedia answer, since it is 100% correct. Compass was nwa's managements way of getting around alpa and the pilots. to think any different is to have drank to much of the good ole nwa koolaid

Compass was formed due to a contract dispute between Northwest and its pilots union, the Airline Pilots Association (ALPA), due to a "scope clause" in the Northwest pilot contract which is intended to protect pilot jobs and pay. This clause limited the type of mid-sized jets available to the airline, and seat capacity of those jets. Northwest is thus forced to pay its pilots existing pay in its contract and not create a separate pay scale for smaller jet aircraft.
In order to avert this problem, Northwest bought the operating certificate of bankrupt Independence Air on March 10, 2006, for $2 million to establish a new feeder airline and new pay rates. During the concept phase, the subsidiary was known as "NewCo". Compass' operations are limited to flying 76-seat aircraft or less, due to the language in the scope clause.


i can tell you right now there is nothing in these paragraphs that is incorrect. compass was the companies way of working around the union and its pilots. infact i can tell you right now that i remember when compas was first created it didn't scare pinnacle pilots or mesaba pilots. it scared the main line pilots.

Ok, you're right. You know everything and certainly everything in wikipedia is never flawed. Once again you miss the point every time dude. If you reread what I wrote, I said acknowledged that in the beginning Compass was created to squeeze the NWA pilots. It did however evolve into a compromise between mgmt and mainline to create a safety-net for NWA pilots.

Once again... Yup, the very initial concept of Compass was to screw the pilots... but in the end, the NWA pilots embraced this Compass idea for their own benefit. To think anything other than that well... you're just misinformed.

What kind of competitive mins are they hiring at right now??

another alter ego airline

So now it just scares the pinnacle pilots? :confused:

exactly. there to put the squeeze on the northwest pilots. and if anyone thinks otherwise, they are misinformed.

compass doesn't scare pinnacle pilots. they do the flying that the rj shouldn't be doing in the first place. for example they are now doing our mem-bos flights. no way a 200 should be doing that flying. so as they took that flight from us they gave us different cities. we have gotten several new destinations from nwa as they have put larger planes on the routes that need it. not to many people are worried about compass here at 9e.

Wow there's LOTS of "misinformed" people then.

The NWA pilot group voted FOR CP. Granted the junior (-9/320) guys feel "sold-out" by the senior (744/330) guys, but in any case at least the majority of the whole group voted FOR it. So what, they "put the squeeze" on themselves?!

Heck I've got a mainline 320 buddy who actually encouraged me to come here. Yea he's in a big (BIG) minority, but there are some NW guys who don't despise CP.

I meant that facetiously... :p

But then again since you brought it up, maybe 9E should be worried? You don't exactly have the most spectacular on-time-figures/customer relations/labor relations/etc/etc and I'm sure NW isn't excited about that, especially when they own two growing regionals themselves. So yea, I wouldn't want CP or XJ to do well either then...

But Matlok - Airsupport knows everything. He's been at Pinnacle for 2.5 years and is willing to school everyone on all matters. He got his info from Wikipedia, the go to place for 100% accurate information. How dare anyone question him! TIC :rolleyes:

only reason i said that is bc Ive heard it from plenty of other people...and the facts seem to back it up... that compass is in an alter ego....... (i wouldnt dare say scab you all might bite my heads off)