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Bond 04-04-2008 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by seafeye (Post 355421)
An RJ isn't an airliner?
Dude you are the reason why regionals aren't taken seriously. And why the pay reflects that.

50 years ago people were flying in DC3's. That was an airliner.
Then the vickers vicount. Still an airliner.
DC5,6...Still airliners.
F28, F100. All airliners.

CRJ ERJ all AIRLINERS


Not to get off topic, but it's a matter of perspective. I do think that an ERJ/CRJ is just as much an airliner as a 737 or 757. Some people base their reality on capacity, size of engines, weight, or even the paycheck that comes with it. IMHO, the folks flying it, and the people in the back make any aircraft under 121 an airliner....

The Juice 04-04-2008 01:18 PM

I like Subway, everyone should like Subway
 
Who is anyone on here to say what someone else should do. What works for one person will not work for everyone. Hey I had a ham and turkey at Subway, it was good, everyone go get one tomorrow.:rolleyes:

Bond makes himself out to be the genius of the three friends for making what he believes is the best choice. Six months ago the genius is the one who went to XJet with their decent upgrade and great contract QOL. But what if they have to let some people go? My point is that people are individual and will make choices that are the best for them, not the industry norm or what people on the forum say they should do.

Bond 04-04-2008 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 355574)
Who is anyone on here to say what someone else should do. What works for one person will not work for everyone. Hey I had a ham and turkey at Subway, it was good, everyone go get one tomorrow.:rolleyes:

Bond makes himself out to be the genius of the three friends for making what he believes is the best choice. Six months ago the genius is the one who went to XJet with their decent upgrade and great contract QOL. But what if they have to let some people go? My point is that people are individual and will make choices that are the best for them, not the industry norm or what people on the forum say they should do.


Wow, someone woke up a little defensive today. To answer your question, free country and free forum.

I've made no claims of anything other than being lucky, clearly you didn't read the subsecuent posts. It's all good OJ, just trying to pass on some of the things I've learned in the past few years. Why not do the same like Kansas did?!?!?

Instead of posting defensively as if the thread was dedicated to you and you only, why not post your experience and why it's been different for you?

No doubt the brotherhood of airmen is diminishing by the days...it becomes evident when guys attack eachother on forums, instead of sharing experiences.

EMB120IP 04-04-2008 02:06 PM

I work for the bottom feeder Kansas works for (what's up Heath), and bottom feeder or not, my QOL is awesome. 15-17 days off a month, proficiency check airman letter, Line checkairman, instructor (sim/aircraft), and I live in Base (very important for me), and pay is very good. It all depends on what YOU want with your career, and also timing helps. Whether you are flying an RJ, 1900 Emb120, Dash 8, Saab etc, it's important to maintain a good attitude. I had a chance to go to SKW, but didn't. I was happy, pay was good, and my only reason would have been because "Everybody else is doing it too". Sure I get frusterated at work, but I enjoy every minute of the day. When I get done, I drive home, and if I want a change of pace, I'll teach a class, sims or do checkrides. My QOL is awesome, and allows me to see my 5 day old newborn more often!

ToiletDuck 04-04-2008 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by EMB120IP (Post 355603)
and allows me to see my 5 day old newborn more often!

He's only 5 days old. How much were you seeing him a week ago? :p

ExperimentalAB 04-04-2008 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 355613)
He's only 5 days old. How much were you seeing him a week ago? :p

ROTFL wow I swear I just woke up the neighbors with that one LoL :D

kansas 04-04-2008 02:46 PM

Hey Joe, congrats.:D

The Juice 04-04-2008 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by Bond (Post 355594)
Wow, someone woke up a little defensive today. To answer your question, free country and free forum.

I've made no claims of anything other than being lucky, clearly you didn't read the subsecuent posts. It's all good OJ, just trying to pass on some of the things I've learned in the past few years. Why not do the same like Kansas did?!?!?

Instead of posting defensively as if the thread was dedicated to you and you only, why not post your experience and why it's been different for you?

No doubt the brotherhood of airmen is diminishing by the days...it becomes evident when guys attack eachother on forums, instead of sharing experiences.

This was not intended to be an attack against you. I think my issue is with people who make it their life mission to tell others what is best for their life. I work at Colgan and it works for me because of individual needs and goals. And then you get these people on the forums say how stupid you are and how brilliant they are for going to X regional rather than Y regional. I know that was not you attempt but everyone should do what is best for him.

I decided the quick upgrade and load up on PIC so when the majors start hiring again I will be ready and competitive. Some want a great contract and higher pay and is willing to wait up to seven years for an upgrade.

These forums just make me crazy with the "your airline sucks, mine is better," and the "dont chase quick upgrade" posts. Again, nothing personal against you, just frustration.

ExperimentalAB 04-04-2008 03:18 PM

I don't think that anybody is saying you can't ever go against the grain here...but there is something to be said for widely-spread advice, as you will find here. I think that most of what you read here is, in fact, applicable for most folks. Congrats, you're unique ;)

Like they say about New Hampshire - 50 million squirrels can't be wrong!! :D

EMB120IP 04-04-2008 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 355613)
He's only 5 days old. How much were you seeing him a week ago? :p

I walked into that one!:D
In the words of Napoleon Dynamite: "Maybe I WAS with him before he was born...GOSH! And I taught him to drew Ligers and stuff, GEEZ!"

Just Kidding. He was born 5 days ago, and my schedule WILL allow me to see him more. Hope this wording makes a little more sense. 10 hours of sleep in 5 days is definitely safe for flying, which is why I'm on leave till the end of April.

Thanks Heath, hope I'll see you in the release room soon.


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