what I meant was that it seems that the airline seems pretty stable now and if I understand correctly it wasn't owned by nwa before. Furloughs and paycuts are never a good thing, but they are still around

 

yeah ask my boyfriend how well the furloughing went in 2004..... real well

 

I doubt that. DAL has always preferred CRJ9 over E175 in the past due to speed and fuel efficiency and I do not see them wanting E170.

 

I agree with Ramen.

 

That's odd, they just ordered more 175s with two class configurations last year. What they do is anybody's guess. Moving those airplanes from F9 to DAL would be a big headache for RAH though. You are talking about displacements then since F9 is flown by RW and DAL is S5 due to scope clauses. It'd be a big training headache for Bedford.

 

I would happily give up my seat to a mainline pilot. In fact, AA pilots originally operated AE's CR7's. The 700 is a decent size airplane. Too big for a regional jet. DL routes our airplanes as if they were MD88. In the DFW days they would have us fly routes such as DFW-SAN, DFW-DCA, etc.

And no, I am not in for a disappointing career. I was simply stating that I would prefer to see aircraft of these sizes at the mainline level. They are not, and thats just how it goes.

Unfortunately, its much cheaper for mainline carriers to outsource flying to the regional level. That is the root cause of the existence of airlines such as Mesa, GoJet, etc. That is why I believe the demise of Mesa will do us no good, because there will be another bottom feeder out there ready to get as much business as possible at whatever cost is necessary. The problem is, the next one has the potential to be MUCH worse...

But thats a whole different story for another day.

 

I was referring to DAL not wanting E170. Don't care about whether RAH wants them or not. DAL has not ordered any E 170s or E175 to my knowledge for anyone, and if they did, they will cancel that order now that the price of oil has reached $120/barrel and keeps going up. NWA is having a second thought about E175s they have on order for Compass. They are testing between Mesaba CRJ9 and Compass E175 to see which one is more cost effective, and I've been told so far CRJ9 is winning out.

 

The CR9 is 40% more efficient at the barberpole than its E170/175 counterparts. The E170, at 40% less efficient, carries 6 fewer passengers than the CR9, which equates to less revenue at higher costs. This is why DL is moving to an all E175 fleet with S5 in the near future.

Speaking of that, anyone know when the DL transition to the 175 will commence?

 

DAL contracted with RAH to fly additional 175s for them. The deliveries start later this year. RAH buys the airplanes and then operates them for the codeshare. DAL will not actually buy the aircraft as they have for other deals.

 

That is true, but your next sentence does not make any sense. If CRJ9 is more efficient why would DAL move towards E175 fleet for regionals?

Also, if DAL merges with NWA, don't count on DAL contract with RAH going through. Thta is the word I'ver heard directly from several DAL pilots. DAL will in all likelihood spread regional flying between Comair, Pinnacle and another regional.