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BlueMoon 04-11-2008 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by andy171773 (Post 361265)
Delta will probably not hesitate to grab them.

Though Delta wants to cut Domestic Capacity, so I'm not sure that more aircraft are in the immediate plans.

Now if there is a merger, well then I think there would be a demand for them as they could unfortunately be used to replace some DC-9's

Stryker 04-11-2008 03:13 PM

I wouldnt be too worried about F9 going under. They went under CH 11 so that they could continue operating. Now alot has to do with how well they do the restructuring. Mesaba did the same type of thing in 04 and it supposedly worked out really well. Course with the state of things no one really knows... It could all end tomorrow.. :confused:

BlueMoon 04-11-2008 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 361346)
I wouldnt be too worried about F9 going under. They went under CH 11 so that they could continue operating. Now alot has to do with how well they do the restructuring. Mesaba did the same type of thing in 04 and it supposedly worked out really well. Course with the state of things no one really knows... It could all end tomorrow.. :confused:

Mesaba's Bk was a sham...so was Comair's

RJ85FO 04-11-2008 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 361346)
Mesaba did the same type of thing in 04 and it supposedly worked out really well.

Taking a 5% paycut and furloughing 220+ pilots...your definition of "worked out really well" is not the same as mine.

Pilotpip 04-11-2008 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by OlyRob (Post 361287)
With MidEx's latest moves, they might need Skywest to get some 900s painted blue and the cookie ovens installed. In four years when the contract is up, I can't see TPG reupping right before they will be able to dismantle MidEx (...er, give first rights to NWA)

Yeah, great move. Let's take reasonably paid pilots' jobs and give them to a freaking 90 seat regional that's being flown by guys that are getting paid what should be 50 seat wages.

Mainline flying being shifted to regionals doesn't help any of us and this is coming from a regional driver.

Foxcow 04-11-2008 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by Pilotpip (Post 361600)
Mainline flying being shifted to regionals doesn't help any of us and this is coming from a regional driver.



That being said don't you think the 170s and 175s should be flown by mainline pilots? I think US Airways did it right with the 190s. I believe Air Canada pilots fly their 170s or 175s.

grossole 04-11-2008 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by Pilotpip (Post 361600)
Yeah, great move. Let's take reasonably paid pilots' jobs and give them to a freaking 90 seat regional that's being flown by guys that are getting paid what should be 50 seat wages.

Mainline flying being shifted to regionals doesn't help any of us and this is coming from a regional driver.

Doesn't republic fly 86 seat jets?

RamenNoodles 04-11-2008 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by grossole (Post 361637)
Doesn't republic fly 86 seat jets?

No, they fly 76 seat jets. I too believe they should be mainline airplanes. CR9 and E175 are not regional airplanes, especially given the routes they operate. ATL-COS and ATL-TUS are NOT regional airline routes. Having these aircraft at the regional level hurts us all, as this means fewer job opportunities at the majors.

Mesa flys 80-something seat jets for US. They are high density configured CR9's...yet again, airplanes that I would prefer to see operated at the mainline level.

STILL GROUNDED 04-11-2008 11:46 PM


Originally Posted by grossole (Post 361637)
Doesn't republic fly 86 seat jets?

Yes, all of the 175's at Republic Airlines are 86 seats. The 170's at Airways are 76 and I think the planes at F9 are 72 seats.

E175 vs Crj900

So why is it that I always here the EMB should be at mainline and never hear anyone crying foul on the CRJ 900 ...is it because a) that the engines are under the wings or, b) that you can stand up in the isle with out hitting your head. Either way its 86 seat seats!

PS: I'll get right on getting them flying at mainline, as if any of us have anything to do with any of that!

STILL GROUNDED 04-11-2008 11:58 PM


Originally Posted by RamenNoodles (Post 361647)
They are high density configured CR9's...yet again, airplanes that I would prefer to see operated at the mainline level.

The 170 and crj 700 hold the same, why are you not giving up your seat for the mainline pilot that ****es and moans about flying a little airplane?

You are in for a long carrier of disappointment if you think you will ever see either of these aircraft at a mainline carrier. I agree it makes for a better future but until we all, I said ALL say no then nothing will ever happen about it.

For the F9 birds, they will stay at F9. They should be able to restructure. If not they will take a short trip to PHX where they will start backfilling the gaping hole Mesa will leave at the airport, or possibly IAH when the senior part of CALs pilot group gets something they want in exchange for selling out the guys on the bottom of the list by releasing the scope. Then they will go to Houston and Cleveland along with the 75 options we have for 190s.

Before you flip out this is not what I want, but what I could see happening. If you can't see it, you should get your medical pulled cause your blind.


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