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Old 04-18-2008 | 03:42 PM
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Guarantee. Wow i wish i had that confidence in Mesaba being around. I think they will but who knows. From what i understand 9e could lose their flying because they broke the contract performance but i have no idea because i do not work there.

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Old 04-18-2008 | 04:18 PM
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Here's what I think...
I'm gonna start my 4 day trip tomorrow, do my job and then go home. Until the planes I fly say Delta Connection on the side ... nothing has happened. Until I get an official f-word letter...nothing has happened. Until my company has been awarded more or less flying...nothing has happened. It won't do me any good to get myself worked up into a tizzy over all this speculation. Last time I checked, my crystal ball didn't work worth a damn anyway.

Read this quote in a book one time. Seems applicable here: Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.
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Old 04-18-2008 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by PinnacleFO
I gaurantee you that Pinnacle will be around after the merger is over.
I'm glad we got that cleared up

Originally Posted by FR8DOGG
Here's what I think...

I'm gonna start my 4 day trip tomorrow, do my job and then go home. Until the planes I fly say Delta Connection on the side ... nothing has happened. Until I get an official f-word letter...nothing has happened. Until my company has been awarded more or less flying...nothing has happened. It won't do me any good to get myself worked up into a tizzy over all this speculation. Last time I checked, my crystal ball didn't work worth a damn anyway.
Best advice I've heard yet!
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Old 04-18-2008 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by tom14cat14
From what i understand 9e could lose their flying because they broke the contract performance
not even close. if you look at the stats we aren't the best, but comair, asa, and mesa are still worse than us on performance.
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Old 04-18-2008 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by PinnacleFO
I gaurantee you that Pinnacle will be around after the merger is over.
Dude, I don't have much faith in your guarantee since you can't even spell the word.
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Old 04-18-2008 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Terantious
Dude, I don't have much faith in your guarantee since you can't even spell the word.
One day I will learn how to spell. Hey, I know thats a bold statement that I made, but here is why i say it, I believe that the decisions on who was going to be flying what were made a long time ago. I don't think Delta would have let us in on flying if we were going to go away quickly. Add that to our long term contracts with NWA and Delta, and I am pretty confident I will have a job. I think all the regionals will stay at first and then slowly get weeded out. Could pinnacle lose flying? Yes they could and if it happens i will be the first to admit that I was wrong, but we cant control it so lets just all go to work and see what happens.
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Old 04-18-2008 | 06:55 PM
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There is no way - short of something catastrophic - that would send Pinnacle under with this merger...
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Old 04-18-2008 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by FR8DOGG
Here's what I think...
I'm gonna start my 4 day trip tomorrow, do my job and then go home. Until the planes I fly say Delta Connection on the side ... nothing has happened. Until I get an official f-word letter...nothing has happened. Until my company has been awarded more or less flying...nothing has happened. It won't do me any good to get myself worked up into a tizzy over all this speculation. Last time I checked, my crystal ball didn't work worth a damn anyway.
Very well said!
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Old 04-18-2008 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Airsupport
delta trying to get out of the contract "ILLEGALLY" wouldn't even make sense and they wouldn't do it. they could have done it to mesa years ago but they waited till they could legally do it. i wouldn't think that an airline who is trying to win approval by the government and the people would start illegally doing anything.
Ofcourse it wouldn't make sense, just like our good old uncle didn't try (and succeeded if I may) to divide and conquer between our flying and the acquisition and subsequent enlargement of the Colgan side. They'll call it DeltaWest and overnight both our contracts with NW and DL will be void and moot. Don't even think you'd need a battery of lawyers for that.

I agree with whomever wrote that NO ONE knows anything. We are kidding ourselves if we think we are in a better position than anybody else because we have some delta contract (which btw out of all DCI carriers we've got the worst performance), because Anderson and PT are buddy buddies, because of any other pilot's mind made up reason that let's us sleep comfortable at night.

The only thing that is probably working for us is the fact that it'll take a long time for the dust to sattle in a post merger environment and even that is assuming fuel cost wouldn't kill us overnight with fuel trading already at a $117 a barrel. How long will we keep on flying MSP-RST, DTW-FNT, DTW-CAK, MSP-FAR and so on with that kindof a reality?

Also with that kind of a thought process please remember that the rest of our colleagues in the different regionals will be benefiting from the same, in other words.... Same *******, different day.

Bottom line, future is uncertain and it's time we stop eating the union propaganda as fast as we dismiss PT and his aids propaganda. It's all the same crap....one is wrapped up in a shiny blue logo, the other in the form of a Tennessee address.
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Old 04-19-2008 | 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by schone
Ofcourse it wouldn't make sense, just like our good old uncle didn't try (and succeeded if I may) to divide and conquer between our flying and the acquisition and subsequent enlargement of the Colgan side. They'll call it DeltaWest and overnight both our contracts with NW and DL will be void and moot. Don't even think you'd need a battery of lawyers for that.

I agree with whomever wrote that NO ONE knows anything. We are kidding ourselves if we think we are in a better position than anybody else because we have some delta contract (which btw out of all DCI carriers we've got the worst performance), because Anderson and PT are buddy buddies, because of any other pilot's mind made up reason that let's us sleep comfortable at night.

The only thing that is probably working for us is the fact that it'll take a long time for the dust to sattle in a post merger environment and even that is assuming fuel cost wouldn't kill us overnight with fuel trading already at a $117 a barrel. How long will we keep on flying MSP-RST, DTW-FNT, DTW-CAK, MSP-FAR and so on with that kindof a reality?

Also with that kind of a thought process please remember that the rest of our colleagues in the different regionals will be benefiting from the same, in other words.... Same *******, different day.

Bottom line, future is uncertain and it's time we stop eating the union propaganda as fast as we dismiss PT and his aids propaganda. It's all the same crap....one is wrapped up in a shiny blue logo, the other in the form of a Tennessee address.

Well said. Whether you fly for Pinnacle, Mesaba or Compass we are all in the same family of Regional Pilots. I wish the best for all of us. Most of us are just trying to make it one day at a time.
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