Nice to know new-hire's are still failing out left and right :rolleyes: You'd think they would have gotten their act together by now...I feel for all y'all.

I passed the FEB4th class and knowing what I know now I would have NEVER went through it, this is coming from some one who already had completed another ground school at another regional. It was miserable. In the end, because there are still 4 or 5 guys finishing sim, it will be more than a 50% washout rate. Still it was surprising because pretty much everybody was a CFI with good flight time and unlike the other airline ground school where we turned the whole hotel floor into a dorm, it didn't seem like a party kind of class I guess it's because we were spread out at different hotels. Anyways The fail rate I think could only be explained because of the SIM but also because the class was too big and the instructor(s) weren't prepared. It kind of felt like those 500+ seat college style classes where guys were there just to listen and as soon as they stepped out of class all knowledge was out of their head. Airline ground schools especially need to be intimate and preferably one on one like some of the majors do. In the end though it was passable so I don't blame TSA, just the odds were not in your favor....

threegreen, and others going into training, the only tips I can give you is to know the memory items and limitations COLD. The DVDs? Sorry SF, You can through those away, useless, well actually they're good if you want to fall asleep fast. The first two weeks are laid back, it's just Indoc, no brainier stuff. Focus on systems, I think they give you the big black binder of systems first day of ground school. READ it WELL before systems class if you read the binder Chapter to Chapter at least once or twice it's a guaranteed pass on the oral. It's not a hard read too because not much text and a lot of pictures. You can read the whole thing in about 6 hours but understand it. As far as the SIM, sorry to say, is really hit or miss and it depends on who you get as a Flight Saftey instructor, who you get on training if you have to do extra sessions and how fast you're able to adapt to style of flying. There were guys that failed that I would have never believed would so in the end I conluded that TSA training is hit or miss. SIM is tough and most went over the regular sessions. TSA knows their failure rate and they provide mentors and a lot of ways to help you take advantage of that. Good luck.

We all know ground school at Transstates is fast pace so you have to be ready and get all the help you can find. NEW HIRES go to the Hilton down the road and get help from the Captain upgrades or recurrent guys. When I was in ground school the Hilton was my home. Captain upgrades study from 6PM till late at night. I would recommend you try all the can to get help.

Am in STL for a month and I posted my name and number asking if any one wanted to study(Memory Items, flows and profiles) and I never got a call. If any one needs help I have a lot of information and I am willing to work with new hires to get them thru. Remember, you can study for hours and get nothing out of it. It has to be effective studying try not to learn the wrong stuff a.k.a gouges or you might get burnt. I have come across many bad gouges in my time.

Goodluck to all at the Hulas University.

I do the same thing. When I have to overnight at the Pear Tree I always try to talk to the new hires and see how they are doing. I always try to get the word out when I am staying in town.

I have been encouraged to see the new hires that I have talked on line and they are making it through. I do not have that much ego to say that I am the reason through training. But I hope my advice at least helped.

I know I wish I would have had more guidence when I went through. I lived in a crashpad with a bunch TSA guys when I was in groundschool. I know that I am not a smart guy by any means, and I know I could not have done with out them.

My turn to return the favor to the Pilot group.

Reeves

reevesofskyking, I agree 100%. I had to get all the help I needed because am just a dumb pilot. I hope I can return the favor because I know if was a new world for me when I started.

Hey all, I'm going to be in the May 5 class. Can't wait to get started!! I know I will need all the help I can get, so if anyone wants to start a study group let me know. I think I might stay at the pear tree.

Anyone else going to be in the May 5 class? I've been studying the limitations they give you during the interview, but I think I've found an error. The speeds for Vmo it lists: to 0 - 8,000 250kts, from 10,000 - 26,000 320kts. There is nothing from 8,000 - 10,000. Anyone know??

Thanks for the help.

well i just looked at my DMV record and found out something, i had an "ooops" in High School that i had to go to traffic school (nothing serious was just going little fast and hit a curb in a turn)...anyways long story short i thought it was off my record but it was not. I told the airline i had nothing on my record, so i am trying to get hold of Cathy but she is not picking up. What do you guys think? I am screwed or what?

Thats not an error.

I was told in brazil that 250 speed limit goes away at 8000, so that is how they wrote the software for the red line. Once you pass 8000 you see the red line retreating on the tape and it slowly works it way up to 320

Just remember 250 is the limit below ten in the US

GearGoesDown -

I am in the May 5th class as well and would be MORE than willing to start one. I know one other person in the class and im sure they would be game as well... We are gonna be seeing alot of one another so we all might as well get friendly in the beginning... :D I would PM you but you need more posts before you can send or receive....

can any of you guys PM me Cathy's (or is it Kathy?)email please?