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seattlepilot 04-22-2008 12:02 AM

Mesa selling CRJs to raise some $$$
 
Looks like Mesa is selling MSNs 7156, 7172, 7173,7178,7181 to raise some cash.

inside0ut 04-22-2008 12:32 AM

Where did that info come from?

ERJ Driver 04-22-2008 02:21 AM

I didn't know we owned any planes but a handful of 1900's
:confused:

Terantious 04-22-2008 02:57 AM

Mesa needs to auction off J.O. to the lowest bidder

Flyboy8784 04-22-2008 04:50 AM


Originally Posted by Terantious (Post 370687)
Mesa needs to auction off J.O. to the lowest bidder

Hopefully the Texas Dept. Of Corrections will get him....they'll figure out a way to kill anyone :D

dbo861 04-22-2008 04:55 AM

Good luck with that..the market for 50 seat RJs is SOO hot right now.

dolsanddays 04-22-2008 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by dbo861 (Post 370715)
Good luck with that..the market for 50 seat RJs is SOO hot right now.

Actually it is red hot. You can't find 50 seat jets just sitting around. The international market for these airplanes is huge. The reason is because people actually have to pay money to fly in other countries....

cessna157 04-22-2008 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by dolsanddays (Post 370777)
You can't find 50 seat jets just sitting around.

Go out to Arizona, you'll find plenty. I've flown 2 of them out there myself. The birds I put out there are very high time/cycles and basically worthless.

FlyerJosh 04-22-2008 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by cessna157 (Post 370779)
Go out to Arizona, you'll find plenty. I've flown 2 of them out there myself. The birds I put out there are very high time/cycles and basically worthless.

Cycled out airframes are obviously a different story. However all of the old ACA/IDE birds have either been parted out or are flying internationally for other carriers. The Bombardier ramp in TUS is empty, where 1 year ago there were over 70 CRJ's being overhauled or stored.

TBucket 04-22-2008 07:20 AM

You'd think if they were going to sell some planes, it'd be the ERJ's they're very shortly not going to have any flying for...

wi_pilot 04-22-2008 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by TBucket (Post 370811)
You'd think if they were going to sell some planes, it'd be the ERJ's they're very shortly not going to have any flying for...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe those aircraft are leased.

dbo861 04-22-2008 07:59 AM

I was in BDL a couple weeks ago and saw an Independence Air CRJ still in full "Fly I" titles and everything. I didn't know any still existed.

FlyerJosh 04-22-2008 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by dbo861 (Post 370839)
I was in BDL a couple weeks ago and saw an Independence Air CRJ still in full "Fly I" titles and everything. I didn't know any still existed.

There's an airplane out there flying for a Nascar team that still has the independence paint scheme, minus the name and logo on the tail.

There might still be one or two out there that are being repainted/refurbished for other carriers.

flyandive 04-22-2008 08:56 AM

Yeah, I saw that one out there too. Was just sitting out by the FBO. Can't remember if it still had the Fly I stuff but it was still in the paint scheme.

dbo861 04-22-2008 08:57 AM

I got a pretty good look at it..and I'm 99% sure it still said Independence Air and an i on the tail.

H46Bubba 04-22-2008 09:06 AM

Mesa owns a bunch of their CRJ-200's. There is a market for 50 seat RJ's in Asia and a buch have been retrofitted to business jets. Micheal Waltrip has one. Comair does all the mods and heavy mx on it. There's also a market for the high time aircraft. Broker company's buy them and pretty much dismantle them to sell the parts to airlines as spare parts.

Salukipilot4590 04-22-2008 09:32 AM

I wonder how much they are asking...

577nitro 04-22-2008 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by cessna157 (Post 370779)
Go out to Arizona, you'll find plenty. I've flown 2 of them out there myself. The birds I put out there are very high time/cycles and basically worthless.

So what is a high time RJ? Is there a cycle limit?

577nitro:confused:

cbire880 04-22-2008 10:52 AM

Saw a Fly i CRJ in a hanger in YUL being parted out. I thought a bunch of the CRJs CHQ is flying are old Independance birds.

johnso29 04-22-2008 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by cbire880 (Post 370962)
Saw a Fly i CRJ in a hanger in YUL being parted out. I thought a bunch of the CRJs CHQ is flying are old Independance birds.

I think some of them acutally started with COMAIR, then went to FlyI, then to Tucson, then to CHQ! They will probably end up in Asia soon.

dba74 04-22-2008 11:02 AM

Can anyone confirm the original post (Mesa selling crj's)?

STILL GROUNDED 04-22-2008 11:16 AM

What happened to Mesa pumping 20 seaters into China, I've not had an email to be a captain lately.

andy171773 04-22-2008 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by 577nitro (Post 370959)
So what is a high time RJ? Is there a cycle limit?

577nitro:confused:


I'm probably wrong..but for some reason when you say that i have the number 14,000 pop into my head..

maybe somewhere around there

Find H46Bubba, i bet he'll know

Groundhog 04-22-2008 11:23 AM

20 Seaters?
 

Originally Posted by STILL GROUNDED (Post 370976)
What happened to Mesa pumping 20 seaters into China, I've not had an email to be a captain lately.

What airplane would that be?

STILL GROUNDED 04-22-2008 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by Groundhog (Post 370983)
What airplane would that be?

That would be the CRJ SV, (short version). My bad I was thinking crj 200 but meant to write 50 seater.

Phuz 04-22-2008 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by ERJ Driver (Post 370683)
I didn't know we owned any planes but a handful of 1900's
:confused:

Would you put it past JO to sell planes he doesn't own??

dba74 04-22-2008 01:18 PM

I was thinking of selling one next time I have a Belize layover. $10 million to retire on!

rickair7777 04-22-2008 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by andy171773 (Post 370980)
I'm probably wrong..but for some reason when you say that i have the number 14,000 pop into my head..

maybe somewhere around there

Find H46Bubba, i bet he'll know

SKW has some of the very oldest 200's...about 35,000 hours, ballpark.

Of course that's with SKW Mx, not mesa Mx.

Hayduke 04-22-2008 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 371054)
SKW has some of the very oldest 200's...about 35,000 hours, ballpark.

Of course that's with SKW Mx, not mesa Mx.

We've also got a few ACA airplanes as well. I'm always psyched to see a BR on my etrip....ACARS FTW!

cessna157 04-22-2008 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 371054)
SKW has some of the very oldest 200's...about 35,000 hours, ballpark.

Of course that's with SKW Mx, not mesa Mx.

Yes, but Comair still has their flagship: 7011. When I was flying the 50, I enjoyed flying 7011. It was well broken in. If I remember correctly it has well over 35,000 hours. Bubba, you care to chime in?

Bond 04-22-2008 06:27 PM

It doesn't surprise me that J.O. would try to liquidate any assets left in an attempt to keep the "Titanic" afloat a bit longer.

threegreen 04-22-2008 06:38 PM

if i was a mesa pilot i would try to get another job asap, as long there are some open rt now

freezingflyboy 04-22-2008 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by cbire880 (Post 370962)
Saw a Fly i CRJ in a hanger in YUL being parted out. I thought a bunch of the CRJs CHQ is flying are old Independance birds.

I think most, if not all of the CHQ CRJs have BR or CA tail numbers. Its my understanding that the BR tails are ex-ACA/Indy birds (their callsign was "blueridge" wasn't it?) and the CA tails are ex-Comair.

familyguy 04-22-2008 08:45 PM

We still haven't answered the question of where this info came from. Sure sounds like someone is just making things up to get you all going.

ExperimentalAB 04-22-2008 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by familyguy (Post 371362)
We still haven't answered the question of where this info came from. Sure sounds like someone is just making things up to get you all going.

But it's working, no?! :D

doogiebarnes 04-22-2008 08:54 PM

what's the sn# on 403SW?
I'm pretty sure I flew 7002 at skyw about 6months ago. i remember telling the fo that this was the hull they finished flight testing on.(as 7001 went down will the crew in a test flight)

TonyWilliams 04-22-2008 10:03 PM


Originally Posted by doogiebarnes (Post 371367)
what's the sn# on 403SW?
I'm pretty sure I flew 7002 at skyw about 6months ago. i remember telling the fo that this was the hull they finished flight testing on.(as 7001 went down will the crew in a test flight)



MSN| Type| Airline| First flight date| Registration| Status 7001
CRJ-100 Bombardier 10/05/1991 C-FCRJ Written off
7002
CRJ-100LR Bombardier 02/08/1991 C-FNRJ Active
7003
CRJ-100ER Air Littoral 17/11/1991 F-GNMN Scrapped
7004 http://www.airfleets.net/images/cam.gif CRJ-100LR Lufthansa Cityline 04/07/1992 D-ACLA Stored
7005 http://www.airfleets.net/images/cam.gif CRJ-100LR Lufthansa Cityline 11/1992 D-ACLB Stored
7006 http://www.airfleets.net/images/cam.gif CRJ-100LR ALMA de México 12/1992 XA-UHB Active

TonyWilliams 04-22-2008 10:03 PM

Not even close to the number two plane....

7028
CRJ-100LR SkyWest USA 01/1994 N403SW Active
7029
CRJ-100LR SkyWest USA 01/1994 N405SW Active
7030 http://www.airfleets.net/images/cam.gif CRJ-100LR SkyWest USA 01/1994 N406SW Active




Status : Active
Registration : N403SW
Airline SkyWest USA
http://www.airfleets.net/cie/SkyWest%20USA.jpg Country : USA
Codes OO SKW Callsign : Skywest
Web site : http://www.skywest.com




http://www.airfleets.net/images/pix.gif General information Serial number 7028
Type CRJ-100LR
First flight date Unknown
Test registration C-FMNB

Delivery date| Airline| Registration| Remark 07/01/1994 SkyWest USA N403SW

paxhauler85 04-23-2008 05:15 AM


Originally Posted by Phuz (Post 371049)
Would you put it past JO to sell planes he doesn't own??

According to the annual report (dated Sept. 30, 2007), heres what we own and lease.

CRJ 200: own 2, lease 57.
CRJ 700: own 8, lease 12.
CRJ 900: own 14, lease 25.
ERJ 145: all 36 leased.
Beech 1900: own all 34 (I think we have sold 20 since publishing)
Dash-8: all 16 leased.

By my count we own 38 airplanes, only 24 of which are jets.

We lease 157 airplanes, roughly 79% of our fleet.

rickair7777 04-23-2008 05:47 AM


Originally Posted by paxhauler85 (Post 371469)
According to the annual report (dated Sept. 30, 2007), heres what we own and lease.

CRJ 200: own 2, lease 57.
CRJ 700: own 8, lease 12.
CRJ 900: own 14, lease 25.
ERJ 145: all 36 leased.
Beech 1900: own all 34 (I think we have sold 20 since publishing)
Dash-8: all 16 leased.

By my count we own 38 airplanes, only 24 of which are jets.

We lease 157 airplanes, roughly 79% of our fleet.


Wow, that's a lot of leases...makes me suspect it's likely that JO will fight on to the bitter end, until he's forced to file Ch.11 (or 7) by outside factors.

If he files Ch.11 pre-emptively, the lessors might just take their airplanes back...ESPECIALLY the 900's and maybe the 700's. Normally a lessor would prefer to help the company to stay in business so they can keep making lease payments, but the 900's (especially) and 700's are hot commodities. The lessor might simply prefer to place them with a stable company rather than deal with BK dynamics.


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