AE Jet Course
 

I've got an interview on the 21st with AE and am wondering what the cut-off is hours wise for them sending you to a "RJ Course."

On of the other instructors here was just hired at 500-something and didn't have to do the course but I'm only at 425TT and 160Multi. Course it might be a nice into...

Are there any ERJ RJ Courses or is everything like the ATP CRJ course?

Thanks!

With low times the pilot review board looks over your app and decides from there. With you're times you'll for sure have to go to a course. They have courses at ATP, RAA (Regional Airline Academy), and Flight Safety.

I'll let you know that I'd recommend trying to get into the RAA class. The instructor there is great and you learn about all the systems of jet aircraft that you're going to need to know about when you get to eagle.

There are no ERJ courses.

just interviewed on wend. with 490/80 and no mention of the jet course word is on the street that they are no longer doing it. Kinda sad it was one of the reasons I chose eagle however I loved the company and I pretty sure I can make it through training without it. Just got the captains review board email too and no mention of the jet course. Eagle Lounge is also reporting that it is canceled. Good Luck and remember they trained people without RJ courses for many years before and no other regional is going to give you one so just study even harder.:)

im leaving for the RJO course tomorrow morning at Flight Safety, my times were 510/62(and there were guys with more then that, that are headed down there with me...not sure what you mean by "There are no ERJ courses", but I'm going to have 6 hours in a seminole and about 15 hours in a full motion ERJ sim, thats what the course curriculum states and when I spoke to their representative in Vero Beach. Either way I'm excited to go!!

although my class date was moved from May 26th to the June 9th class..ah well.

illinipilot- when did they tell you that you had to do the RJ course

Hey if they want to hire you, and you are sent to an RJ course, who cares? They're paying for it.

So they took your pulse, and the captains reviewed record of you breathing, and your heart pumping......SWEET!

With the apparent cancellation of the jet transition course I wonder what's going to happen to the people who got offers and were told they were headed to the course?

i had the interview april 14th and that friday i was told..so the 18th of april

Any more information about the program being discontinued would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Don't have any info or confirmation other than the rumors I read on eaglelounge.com about a recruiter telling an Eagle pilot it will be canceled and the mins will go back to maybe 500TT.....

I got the email on April 25th with the Captain's board approval and confirmation of the jet transition course....and I haven't heard anything since so I'm interested to see if it is canceled what they'll do.

People who post here need to realize you are influencing new fos an how they start their careers. First off, there is already a good string of posts on this. Second, if they haven't already stopped the RAA course and they offer you the choice go to flight safety. Despite Wmugrad's opinion there is definitely an erj course. The flight safety course is an emb - 145 level D sim. The RAA is a crj ftd. You tell me which one is more benificial. If you plan to erj go to flight safety. Finally, there are no hard requirements to be sent to the RJO program. If they do all the better. All I know is that so far the RJO course at flight safety grads have a 100% pass rate in the eagle training. One of the maybe 2 RAA grads failed out of our training class. I would do it over again if I had the chance. Plus it is another 10 hours twin time and 24 level d to get you ready for eagle. It did not hurt, only help. If i am wrong on any of my info, correct me, but I don't think I am.

You make yourself sound big and bad like you know it all AEFO. I hadn't heard about the ERJ course before so I WAS wrong on that. Doesn't mean that you have to tell me to shut up. Maybe you should go back to school and learn some manners... You should also get your stats right because RAA has had 25 guys go through the course and has had 2 people fail, not 1/2 of them...

Just as you tell me not to post things that I don't know about why don't you keep your fingers off the keys about things you don't know about.

There IS an ERJ disregard my last post on that... THANKS

Sorry WMU I should not have said what I said about your post. As far as the RAA failure I said "one of maybe two RAA grads failed out of OUR class." As in there were maybe two in our class. I am sure that if American Eagle was to use RAA, they would send more than two guys there. Thats all I meant. I did not mean that 50% of thier grads failed. I am sure it was just a fluke with this guy. Nothing against the instruction at RAA. I am sure there are great instructors there as you have found out. Even doing the RAA course would be benificial over doing nothing.

Come on guys... What's the point of having a degree if it doesn't even teach you to spell/type use proper grammar? I generally ignore the daily atrocities of the English language but Wend?

Come on!!!

As you were saying AEFO this course goes in depth with systems, and limitations and is great for any lower time guy. We will be getting about 40 hrs in the CRJ sim and have very experienced instructors teaching us. It's giving us a view into a jet cockpit, checklists, flows, profiles and FMS before we get to Eagle. Which I feel is way better than just having 800-1000 hrs as an instructor and going straight to Eagles training. And I'm not saying that 800-1000 hr guys can't do it because before all this low time stuff that's how it was and it was fine (imho).

At the end of the course we'll have a PC, and a checkride with an oral that we have to pass before we can even get to Eagle.

Anyway, sorry bout the attitude earlier. I hope you enjoy Eagle, I look forward to it.

Does the RJO course at RAA offer twin time as well, or just the CRJ sim?

Hey guys, I finally have to weigh in on this thread. As a 21 year AE Check Airman on the ERJ (both IOE and Sim), I would advise anyone with "lower time" that is offered an opportunity to go through one of these programs to take advantage of it. Both programs produce good results. I'm speaking from the experience of having given the sim checkrides. I just did 2 F/O rides on Friday. Both passed, but the pilot that had been through a transition course with lower time did much better than the "higher" time CFI. It's the "1000 HR CFIs" that are having trouble getting through our sim course. Regardless of your background, experience, or "options" I wish you the best of luck.

machman,

I certainly don't disagree on the value of the course. It is a real blessing for low timers. However, considering your position, is AE suspending this course as mentioned earlier?

Thanks in advance.

Guys, I honestly do not know the future of these programs. One thing I have heard "through the grapevine" is that AE feels that the combination of the hiring slowdown at the majors while several other regionals are in trouble will provide more experienced pilots for us, thus the programs will no longer be necessary. Time will tell.

As for what to study ahead of time... there's not a whole lot you can do. The problems we are seeing are usually not in ground school or on the orals. Students are having difficulty flying the airplane to ATP standards. That being said, you need to have recent IFR experience and a very good scan to be successful in our program. Ability + Recent Experience + Good Study Habits = SUCCESS. Hope that helps!

This course is a week of systems, then 2 weeks of sim. There is no Twin time w/ this course it's only the CRJ-200 ftd. It really gets you use to the airlines glass cockpit.

As far as I have heard this course isn't going anywhere anytime soon, but that was from an instructor here and not directly from AE so I don't know if this Jet course going to stay or go in the near future.

great, thanks for the feedback!

Do people who are going to the ATR have to do the course?

Yes..equipment doesn't matter

I have not heard what the proper dress code is for the RJO course? Can anyone shed some light on what we should wear when attending? Thanks

Be professional.

Just to clear up a few things: I have spoke to the recuriters and they have not cx'd any RJ courses.

FYI- Mins. went up to 75 multi today.

where did you see that? I have an interview next week and I have just over 50.

I got an email from HR. If they already gave you the interview I would think that you're safe with the 50.

I'd be one mad dude if they cancelled my interview and told me to go get another 25.

Proper attire is Black pants and a White shirt for class, and nice clothes while your on campus. You should get an email from Chuck telling you about everything a week before class.

has anyone been cancelled out of the RJO course and asked to come down and re-do part of the interview?

I have a friend in the RJO course right now in Vero Beach. If they did cancel the RJO course I think it was something that has happened in the last 5 days.

Just got out of EMJ training, waiting on IOE. You guys will be fine either way. Just dont fall asleep in class, listen to everything. Dont study for anything beyond what your next test covers. Just study the flight profiles and flows and the sim shouldnt be bad.

Proper dress is business casual for the RJO course. No uniform type stuff. Just bring what you have. After about 2 weeks you will be begging to wear your jeans, and they won't complain either. They are more strick on the dress code for the long term students. Pack stuff for your down time to wear too. One guy only packed dress shoes and was stuck playing volleyball in a swimsuit, black socks and shoes lol. Enjoy your time there. It's not to hard and they will reteach it all a different way in DFW.

Anybody confirm this? I recently changed email services and maybe I didnt get the new minimums email they have been sending out. Thanks in advance!

I think this is more rumor at the moment. Though during the job fair I went to they did say a lot more applications have been coming in. So they might come up a little but who knows. You might see 500/100 soon but people are still interviewing with 350/50 I know that.

There were 3 ATA guys in my interview group...2 L1011 guys and 1 737 guy

I knew the party would end sometime. I hear that the pilot candidate is going to have to pay for the course shortly.

I really hope that I don't go down there next week and they say "go pay 10k or whatever for an rj course and you're hired" type deal.:eek: