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My Dad is better than your dad!
My airline is better than your airline! I am cooler than you! You guys sound like a bunch of high school kids!:rolleyes: |
HAHAHA a sniff of something in the air and everyone puffs their chests
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Originally Posted by iahflyr
(Post 385353)
I am going to say no. The only thing United would need lift for is to replace Mesa (and that won't happen until Mesa is in Ch. 11 (end of June) or they close (end of the year)).
And please, I hate it when I hear 86 seat rumors, Q-400 rumors, and EMB-190 rumors for companies that have 70 seat scope clauses. Shut up, it will not happen! Well hate it all you like bit that's what UAL wants; spoke to the ZW DCA Chief Pilot and that's what we've been asked to bid on. 10 Q's in Den and and another 40 aircraft made up of 50's/70's and 90 seat airframes outfitted with 86 seats. |
AWAC has an exemption on the 70-seat scope, which is how they operated 100-seat BAe-146s for so long. What I don't know is if that exemption was valid only for those airframes or if it is for up to 18 airplanes with that many seats.
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Originally Posted by Kenny
(Post 385419)
Well hate it all you like bit that's what UAL wants; spoke to the ZW DCA Chief Pilot and that's what we've been asked to bid on. 10 Q's in Den and and another 40 aircraft made up of 50's/70's and 90 seat airframes outfitted with 86 seats.
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Originally Posted by CRJDriver
(Post 385380)
My Dad is better than your dad!
My airline is better than your airline! I am cooler than you! You guys sound like a bunch of high school kids!:rolleyes: That's because a lot of these guys are only a couple of years removed from it. |
United's scope clause...
1-K-22 “Small Jets" means (a) Jet Aircraft that are certificated in the United States of America for seventy (70) or fewer seats and a maximum permitted gross takeoff weight of less than eighty thousand (80,000) pounds and (b) up to eighteen (18) specific aircraft with certificated seating capacity in excess of seventy (70) seats operated by Feeder Carrier Air Wisconsin Airlines Corp. ("AWAC"). These eighteen aircraft are identified as the "AWAC Quota" Currently, the AWAC Quota is filled by BAe-146 aircraft with the following tail numbers: N463AP, N179US, N181US, N183US, N606AW, N607AW, N608AW, N609AW, N610AW, N611AW, N612AW, N614AW, N615AW, N616AW, N290UE, N291UE, N292UE, and N156TR. AWAC may replace any aircraft within the AWAC Quota with: (i) any other BAe-146 or AVRO 85 aircraft each with no more passenger seats than were carried in the actual operation of the replaced aircraft, or (ii) any other aircraft with a maximum certificated seating capacity in the United States of eighty-five (85) seats and a maximum certificated gross takeoff weight in the United States of up to ninety thousand (90,000) pounds. |
Also of note is US Airways' scope clause allows for 86 seat regional jets, as evidenced by Mesa and Republic.
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Why would UA want to give out more 50 seat flying. If this is Mesa's work, this would be a good excuse to cut capacity. Does not make sense.
Oh, RAH would get the flying cause United loves the 170s. |
Maybe Trans States will bid on it. It seems to almost be our bread and butter anymore. I know we just picked up more this spring.
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