The other day I saw a Colgan Q400 in CLE flying under the CAL colors. I thought CAL had a scope clause that prevented regionals from flying aircraft with more than 50 seats under their colors. Can any one shed some light on this for me?

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Ridge

Its a JET scope clause, thats how they get around it.

Oh boy...where have you been? CAL's scope prohibits JET aircraft with more than 50 seats. Turboprops are not included. CoEx used to fly ATR72s for CAL back in the day.

I don't know if there is a weight limit. If there isn't, I wonder whats stopping ol' Kellner from stuffing 150 seats in a Hercy bird and farming that flying out to Colgan or Commutair?

I'm picturing a C-130 in CAL colors saying Continental Connection...very funny
I have seen a pic of a C-130 in Delta livery

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I suspected it had to do with the wording used to circumvent the Scope.
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While a GREAT tactical airlifter, the C-130 would not be an efficient airliner...otherwise you'd be right.

J Model???

CAL's scope clause allows "small jets" of FAA certification up to 50 seats and "small turboprops" of FAA certification up to 79 seats. If it's over 79 seats then CAL mainline pilots would fly it.

CAL is also limited (generally) to a maximum of 274 small jets (which is why ExpressJet has that number). Because CAL mainline is currently operating more than 348 aircraft at the moment (I think the count is about 370), they are allowed to operate more small jets, currently up to approximately 350, if they choose too. The formulas are specified in the CBA. The CBA does not contain limitations on the number of small turboprops that the company can contract for with express carriers. Pinnacle/Colgan currently has plans for a total of 60 Q400's for CAL service.

Four engines is good redundancy at a hot DZ or airstrip, but is wasted weight and complexity on most airliners. Also, tactical lifters have to handle tactical landings and manuevers, which means that they carry extra structural weight.

I'm not sure if the C-130 is FAA certified for pax?

Did that get renegotiated DOWN from 275?